2016 Toyota Prius Review

Discussion in 'Toyota' started by xcel, Jan 7, 2016.

  1. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2018 Bolt EV and 2017 Prime

    The car makers don't usually offer AWD without more power to drive the extra wheels, so if that comes to pass, I wonder if the Prius would then end up with more power? For example, the FFH (Fusion) wasn't offered with AWD, but the ICE Fusion with V6 was. Same with the cousin, Lincoln MKZh/MKZ.
     
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  2. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Super Moderator

    Wonder if they are going to put a couple of electric motors in the back to turn the wheels.
     
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  3. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2018 Bolt EV and 2017 Prime

    Yeah, I would imagine that's how Toyota would have to do it (or has done it for their local market). I have not been able to find any details about that implementation.
     
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  4. SI_Prius

    SI_Prius Well-Known Member

    This is how they have already done AWD for Japanese market:

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  5. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2018 Bolt EV and 2017 Prime

    Thanks, SI_Prius!

    That's a good solid implementation. The only question I have is whether they program things differently (current limit) to not overtax the probably same battery as on the FWD model.
     
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  6. SI_Prius

    SI_Prius Well-Known Member

    Here are the more sad details of current "Japan model" implementation:
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    Only 7HP electric motor o_O
     
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  7. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2018 Bolt EV and 2017 Prime

    7 HP is pretty sad, but for a low traction situation where the front wheels have no purchase, that could be just enough. It is likely one of those, 'probably not worth the cost,' options but very cool.
     
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  8. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    Yes. That would be laughable to the guys who like to throw mud with all four wheels at once, but 7 hp could be very useful to get unstuck or minimize slippage on slippery surfaces at low speeds. I've never needed that feature since I got the Prius.
     
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  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    While the 2019 Prius' AWD-e system has been rumored and dissected in pretty good detail here, I cannot say it will or will not arrive later this year. I have a drive scheduled in Kohler, WI in early December to drive the 2019 Prius with "an addition" some Subaru owners might like for some reason? ;)

    2016 Prius in snow

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    One of my old haunts which I miss dearly.​

    Wayne
     
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  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    HI All:

    A 2018 with Roof rack and cargo.

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    I just liked the picture from Toyota Marketing.

    Wayne
     
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  11. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Super Moderator

    Must do wonders for fuel economy.
     
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  12. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I believe that a Prius with winter tires is all anyone would ever need , assuming there is
    5" or less snow on the road. Between soft throttle response , high weight , and traction control ,
    the only thing stopping you is ground clearance. I suppose if you're really worried about it ,
    you could buy a pickup or SUV with the most ground clearance and the biggest engine you can find.
    The big engine is not really to help in the snow , it's there to , you know , "boost" certain shortcomings
    in the driver's anatomy.
     
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  13. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    ..... DWD ????

    /lol, ... btw, .. women drive ALL of this. Men get the blame, but I have to think 90% of the guys out there wouldn't get involved in any of this "my ride's bigger" ... attitude, ... . if it weren't for oooooonnnnnne thing. (hint, .. there's a fair chunk of "them" (not all) that actually do care what you drive)
     
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  14. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    When I parked in a friend's level front lawn near Richmond during a rainy spell a few weeks ago, the only thing that stopped my Prius was mud.
     
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  15. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I didn't think about mud. But , yeah.......... the Prius is not made for that.
     
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  16. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, and its "high weight" doesn't help a bit when one wheel is sinking in muck. A little torque at the rear wheels might've sufficed to allow escape, but wasn't available. We pulled it out with his '88 Cherokee and a rope, which I had to go to Harbor Freight to buy because he didn't own a single rope or chain of any sort.
     
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  17. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    A Jeep owner without a winch, chain ... or even a tow strap ?? The off-road crowd might have some advice for that guy: ...

    "Get a rope!"
     
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  18. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    I would agree, although "that guy" is far from an off-roader; he just imagines he needs it for the rare snow deep enough his Forester couldn't handle it.

    Until this incident, I wouldn't have expected a stock Jeep not to have any hook, hitch, or whatever, to which a tow rope could be tied safely. I found a sturdy-enough bit, but it was so high that the rope coming under the plastic under-chin spoiler broke the plastic bolts holding the spoiler. So ... back to Pep Boys to buy bolts to repair the Jeep. Prius was undamaged.

    My understanding is that Japanese CARS are required to have functional tow hooks, front and rear---although they use silly screw-in temporary eyelets in front lately.
     
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  19. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2018 Bolt EV and 2017 Prime

    Ouch. I'm surprised by the lack of hooks as well, given how Jeep advertises the off-road prowess. I guess those hooks are just for the trail-specialized models more so than the CUVs. I have never had to pull anyone out of a tricky trail situation, but a 15000 lb snatch strap allowed a '94 Jeep Cherokee Sport to help out an 18-wheeler in an unpaved, icy parking area.
    I guess I'm okay with that given the infrequent use. I've seen the eyelets in a storage bag in a Nissan Leaf. I haven't check other vehicles lately.
     
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