482,000 VW TDIs Produce 5 to 35Xs the NOx Beyond Federal Emissions Requirements

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  1. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    The Ontario settlement hearing took place yesterday, the judge felt that the settlement was not in the best interest of affected consumers and did not approve it. I will see if there is any new news a week from now, but I think it will be more like a 2-3 week wait before we hear much.


    While Justice Belobaba accepted that depreciation could be a valid factor in valuation, he stated that lawyers representing both VW and the vehicle owners need to demonstrate why it is fair and reasonable for the difference in payouts between purchase price and settlement compensation to be in the range of $10,000 or more. Because it’s a proposal already agreed upon by lawyers for both sides, both sides must prove to Justice Belobaba why the difference in payouts is fair and reasonable.

    Lawyers on both sides committed to file the requested memorandum to Belobaba within a week. The hearing will reconvene after that.
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  2. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2012 Pip and 2017 Prime

    It is fair because the car owners get "something", VW pays a little less, and the lawyers on both sides will walk away right away with their bundles of cash. win-win-win, right? :rolleyes:
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  3. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    The VW Canada settlement is approved. I don't see any changes from the proposed settlement from last month. More information is at https://www.vwcanadasettlement.ca/en/

    Starting on April 28th, Canadian settlement class members and U.S. customers with affected 2.0L TDI vehicles that were first sold or leased in Canada may submit claims for benefits under the settlement by way of an online portal or a paper claim form (available on the settlement website or by calling the Canadian Settlement Claims Centre at 1-888-670-4773).

    A Black Book vehicle value calculator is up at https://cbbestimator.vwcanadasettlement.ca/VW_WebServices/vw/index
    Owner damages are at https://www.vwcanadasettlement.ca/w.../12/Schedule-D.doc-Owner-Damages-Payments.pdf
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  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Wednesday, May 17, 2017

    [​IMG] Volkswagen Obtains Final Approval of 3.0L TDI V6 Settlement In the U.S.

    VW AG and VW Group of America, Inc. (together, Volkswagen) announced today that Judge Charles R. Breyer of the United States District Court for the Northern District of California has granted final approval to the settlement agreement between Volkswagen and private plaintiffs represented by a Court-appointed Plaintiffs’ Steering Committee (PSC) to resolve outstanding civil claims regarding approximately 78,000 affected 3.0L TDI V6 diesel engine vehicles in the United States.

    Concurrently, Judge Breyer also approved a Consent Decree between Volkswagen and the U.S. Department of Justice on behalf of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the State of California by and through the California Air Resources Board (CARB) and the California Attorney General; and a Consent Order between Volkswagen and the U.S. Federal Trade Commission. All three agreements were previously announced.

    With final approval of the 3.0L TDI V6 settlement, Volkswagen is able to offer a resolution to all of its customers with eligible vehicles in the United States.

    Hinrich J. Woebcken, President and CEO of Volkswagen Group of America, Inc.:
    The 3.0L TDI V6 Settlement Program

    The implementation of the 3.0L TDI V6 settlement program will begin within 15 business days. Customers with eligible vehicles may submit claims via an online portal accessed through VW Court Settlement or by calling 1-844-98-CLAIM. Once a claim is approved, customers can schedule appointments with dedicated settlement specialists who have been assigned to dealership locations.

    Under the 3.0L TDI V6 settlement program, Volkswagen has agreed, among other terms, to provide cash payments to all eligible members of the class, and take the following specific actions:

    Recall and repair, free of charge to the customer, approximately 58,000 affected 2013-2016 Model Year Volkswagen, Audi and Porsche 3.0L TDI V6 vehicles (so-called Generation 2 vehicles) to bring them into compliance with the emissions standards to which they were originally certified, if an appropriate Emissions Compliant Repair is approved by U.S. regulators.

    Buy back or offer trade-in credit of equal value for, or terminate the leases of, approximately 20,000 eligible 2009-2012 Model Year Volkswagen and Audi 3.0L TDI V6 vehicles (so-called Generation 1 vehicles) or, if approved by U.S. regulators, modify the vehicles to substantially reduce their nitrogen oxide (NOₓ) emissions so as to allow eligible owners and lessees to keep them.

    Contribute $225 million to the environmental remediation trust that was established under Volkswagen’s 2.0L TDI settlements in the United States to fully mitigate the lifetime NOₓ emissions of the affected 3.0L TDI V6 vehicles.

    As part of its agreement with the State of California, Volkswagen will also pay $25 million to CARB to support the use of zero emissions vehicles (ZEVs) in the State.

    Volkswagen has agreed to pay up to approximately $1.2 billion in benefits for the 3.0L TDI V6 settlement program, assuming 100% participation in the program, a 100% buyback of all eligible Generation 1 vehicles and availability of an Emissions Compliant Repair for Generation 2 vehicles. Volkswagen expects to be able to bring affected Generation 2 vehicles to the same emissions standards to which the vehicles were originally certified. If Volkswagen is unable to obtain a timely approved Emissions Compliant Repair for eligible Generation 2 vehicles, it will offer to buy back or provide trade-in credit of equal value for, or terminate the leases of, eligible Generation 2 vehicles and may also seek approval by U.S. regulators to offer customers a modification to substantially reduce their NOₓ emissions.

    The settlement applies to all 3.0L TDI V6 diesel engine vehicles that Volkswagen, Audi, or Porsche marketed or sold in the United States for Model Years 2009 through 2016. The vehicles are divided into two generations, as follows:

    Generation 1 Vehicles

    Volkswagen Touareg - 2009-2012
    Audi Q7 - 2009-2012

    Generation 2 Vehicles

    Volkswagen Touareg - 2013-2016
    Audi Q7 - 2013-2015
    Audi A6, A7, A8, A8L, Q5 - 2014-2016
    Porsche Cayenne Diesel - 2013-2016
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  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Thursday May 18, 2017

    [​IMG] Bosch obtains final approval of diesel vehicle settlement program in the U.S.

    Bosch has obtained the final approval of a settlement agreement between the company and civil claimants in the U.S. The agreement resolves the most substantial part of the civil law proceedings pending against Bosch in connection with VW, Audi and Porsche turbo diesel vehicles that were sold in the U.S.

    The settlement, which was announced by Bosch on 1 February 2017, was concluded with the Plaintiffs’ Steering Committee (“PSC”) on behalf of the class of current and former owners, lessees, and reseller dealers of the affected vehicles. It has been formally approved now by Judge Charles R. Breyer of the United States District Court of the Northern District of California, who concluded that it is fair, adequate, and reasonable to the class members.

    The agreement finally settles the claims of consumers and dealers of used vehicles against Robert Bosch GmbH, its affiliates, employees, and directors. It covers VW and Audi diesel vehicles with 2.0L engines (model years 2009 – 2015) and VW, Audi, and Porsche diesel vehicles with 3.0L engines (model years 2009 – 2016). For this purpose, Bosch agreed to pay a total amount of USD $327.5 million, without acknowledgement of any fact as alleged by the plaintiffs or acceptance of any liability.

    The settlement received overwhelming support from the plaintiffs. Of the approximately 589,000 class members, only 640 chose to exclude themselves from the settlement, and only four objected.

    The settlement agreement concerns only civil law claims. As it has done since allegations have first been made public, Bosch will continue to defend its interests in all other civil and criminal law proceedings and to cooperate comprehensively with the investigating authorities in Germany and in other countries.

    Class members may obtain further information from the website established for this purpose: Bosch VW Settlement
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  6. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    I turned in my Golf today, it was only a 10 minute process or so. I will miss the car, it was a good car aside from the emissions cheating. I had a few fun road trips, the car was dependable, and I always got good fuel economy no matter what the conditions (probably aided by the cheating). And with the buyback deal, it will probably have the lowest cost of ownership of any car I'll ever own.

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  7. radtech

    radtech Member

    OK, so I have received the initial settlement for the software update and received the Bosch settlement. But is there any news on the hardware upgrade that was originally thought to be scheduled for Aug/Sept time frame? This is in reference to the TDI 2.0 15' Passat. Thank you for any info. The local dealers know nothing....
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  8. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I was already irritated that VW doesn't offer the excellent 1.4 Tsi in the Golf in North America.
    Looking at the website yesterday , I now see that even the least expensive 1.4 Jetta forces you to have the 205/55R-16 fatties.
    I know, it's not a big deal , and theoretically wheels and tires can eventually be changed back to 15's. At a cost.
    Okay , I'm not getting rid of the Prius anytime soon , but I'm always thinking about the next car.

    Also............ Hey, you kids ! Get the hell outta my yard !
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  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Monday Oct 23, 2017

    [​IMG] VW Gen 2.1 and 2.2 3.0L TDI Fix receives EPA/CARB Regulatory Approval

    VW Statement Regarding 3.0L TDI Vehicles with Gem 2.1 and 2.2 Engines

    Today Volkswagen received regulatory approval for an emissions compliant repair (ECR) to bring more than 38,000 Generation 2.1 and 2.2 3.0L TDI V6 vehicles in the U.S. into compliance with the emissions standards to which they were certified. Eligible customers will be notified that they can receive an ECR free of charge at their preferred dealership.

    VW is working closely with our regulators to develop approved solutions for the remaining 3.0L TDI V6 vehicles ASAP.

    EPA Confirmatory Letter: EPA Approved Emissions Modifications: Generations 2.1 SUV and 2.2 SUV of the 3.0L Subject Vehicles
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  10. radtech

    radtech Member

    When is the EPA going to approve the hardware upgrade portion? I want the remaining money I'm owed!
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  11. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Radtech:

    I am sorry but I do not have any idea. If I see something on one of the VW media sites, I will post it.

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  12. Markus

    Markus Member

    I turned in my 2011 Sportwagen today. The process for turning in a US car in Canada was definitely longer because of the cross border implications (In 2011 I imported a Jetta TDI Sportwagen into Canada). This is definitely the cheapest car I will ever own when considering the buyback amount and the relative strength of the Canadian dollar from the time of purchase to the present. There are certainly some tempting replacement options out there:)
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  13. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    Glad to hear that they figured something out for cars that weren't bought here. What are you considering for replacements?
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  14. Markus

    Markus Member

    I'm relieved it is over as well. I'm actually eying up a Civic hatchback as well:) What did you end up getting yours for if you don't mind me asking?
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  15. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    Mine was around $26,500 plus tax. It's a Sport Touring with a manual transmission, and had around 16k km when I got it. It ended up being slightly cheaper than what new Sports were going for around here.
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  16. Markus

    Markus Member

    That's very good. Used cars in Alberta seem to pricier than in Manitoba. Are you using premium or regular fuel?
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  17. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    I actually went out to Calgary to get it lol, there wasn't much selection here for used Civic hatchbacks yet. I use regular most of the time, I did premium for a tank in summer but didn't notice a significant difference. I think I'll try again for a few tanks next summer to see how it affects the mileage and performance.
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  18. Markus

    Markus Member

    Thanks Mike, you give me hope:) I'll be on the lookout.

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