10th gen Honda Civic to Debut Sept 16

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  1. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the link, Wayne. I enjoyed the reveal. I'm not surprised at the American and English influence in the car's style since Honda has somehow avoided most of the Japanese and Korean styling weirdness that just doesn't look good to most western eyes. I like the look of this car. I'm hopeful that the increased cabin space promised translates into something that will fit my 6'3".

    I'm looking forward to seeing the coupe and hatchback and Si and seeing more specs.
     
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  2. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    2.0L base engine, 1.5turbo for EX. Sadly, EX is CVT-only, so no manual-turbo option is available. Why?!!

    1.5 turbo...

    Fit has a 1.5 engine...

    Let's put that into this and call it Si. :D
     
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  3. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I'd take a Fit Si ( 1.5turbo,6MT) for weekend fun , as long as I had my hybrid for commuting. Will Honda make one ? Naahhh. We'll see a Fit Hybrid before that happens.

    But they could surprise us.
     
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  4. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Here's what we know from the reveal:

    • Two all new engines: 2L NA making 158hp and 1.5 Turbo making 173hp
    • Both engines better than 40mpg highway
    • Lower seating position. Lower stance: 1" lower and 2" wider than current model
    • Wheels pushed to corners with 1.2" longer wheelbase, but shorter front overhang
    • Class leading cabin space
    • Two more inches of legroom for back seats
    • Headlights and taillights on upper trim models are all LED
    • Body is 25% more rigid and aerodynamics are improved by 12%
    • Quieter and more airtight interior
    • 68lbs lighter than outgoing Civic
    I probably missed some things. I'm stoked! :stickshift:
    Palemelanesian, if you want the turbo/manual combo you'll have to look at some other model than the sedan. Don't know why. :confused:
     
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  5. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    It just annoys me when the parts are all there but they make some decision like this and you just can't get a certain combination. There's no reason for it to be limited like that, but they do it anyway.

    All those points you listed sound good to me. The Civic has a special place in my heart even now, so I'm glad it's getting some good stuff.

    Not that I want a sedan. I'm beyond happy with my hatchback. It's unlikely I'll go back to the limitations of a sedan. I'm going after work today to pick up a stove. In the Fit. A civic might have trouble with a microwave. :p
     
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  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    I filled the social media channels already...



    Starts at about 12:30 into the vid and you can click on the YouTuibe Icon to see it full screen if preferred.

    It Fits! Taller drivers that is.

    Wayne
     
  7. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind


    I like that. But how are the old folks going to get in and out of such a low , low vehicle ? ;)
     
  8. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    Isn't it still taller than Civics of 20 or so years back? Admittedly, Civics weren't old folks' cars then, as they are now.
     
  9. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I have a 97 Civic sitting in my driveway that seems to be about 4" shorter then my Prius. Cars are supposed to be low , for less frontal area , low center of gravity (for good handling) , and better fuel efficiency. Who says so ? Edwin say so.

    And I'm an old dude.
     
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  10. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    I like low cars. I previously drove a '96 civic for over a decade.

    But you can't do this in a low car.
     
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  11. basjoos

    basjoos Well-Known Member

    Another advantage of low cars, I have slipped underneath wind-downed tree trunks that were laying across the road in situations where a taller vehicle would have had to go back for a chainsaw or taken an alternate route.

    Also I can stop, open the door, reach down, and pick up objects (turtles, etc.) sitting on the road without having to get out of the car, something you can't do with a taller car.
     
  12. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    "Unofficial" official pricing for the 2016 Civic sedan is circulating on the interweb today. I think Honda releases official official pricing Monday. If these prices hold up, the new EX is a little cheaper than the outgoing model.

    Update: Honda now has limited info on the sedans posted on its website: http://automobiles.honda.com/10th-gen-civic/ It appears that the MSRP pricing shown below is accurate so far.

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  13. brick

    brick Answers to "that guy."

    Seems pretty reasonable to me overall. It's just a shame to see that single, lonely 6MT option at the top of the list. Honda can start to make up for it by providing a similar list with "5D" at the front of each entry.
     
  14. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Yep. There is a depressing dearth of manuals up there. I thought one would make it to the EX trim. Lots of folks looking forward to the 5D info...
     
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  15. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    mpg's are out.

    Looks like Honda FINALLY got the manual right. 2.0 NA 6 spd manual is rated at 27/40/31.

    That's 158 hp and 138 lb-ft of tq on a 2750 lb (?) car. So a trailer hitch will be useful and any mild hyper miler (when not towing, of course) ought to see tank to tank mpg of 40+ ---- that's what I'm thinking.

    I could see a trade up in my future.


    /even the LX has quite a list of standard features
     
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  16. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Yes. The news embargo is over and quite a few of the bloggers and auto publications have mini-tests posted with specs. The 2.0L engine is good for 41mpg hgwy EPA rating in the sedan models. The 1.5L turbo is slightly better at 42mpg hgwy. That's with the CVT. The previous class leader was the Mazda3 sedan @ 41mpg. So all these sedans are bigger, more powerful, get better gas mileage, are better equipped, look much nicer, and weigh slightly less than the outgoing models. Good job, Honda.
     
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  17. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    I want a turbo manual hatch.
     
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  18. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    It seems like Honda plans to "make" their customers buy one of the nineteen EX models. The LX is the stripper base model. And my choice. Too bad they got too fat to wear the 15" wheels they offered last year.
     
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  19. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

     
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  20. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Here's an animated "EarthDreams" turbo presentation by Honda:

    https://youtu.be/dPlQ4ggFIpU

    New info for me is that Honda has molded the exhaust manifold into the head and water-cooled the whole manifold. I would imagine that this would speed cold engine warm-up also. Both the new 2.0L normally aspirated and the 1.5L turbo engines will run on 87 octane regular and 0w-20 oil.

    Yuji Matsumochi, chief powertrain engineer, points out features of the 1.5L turbo:

    https://youtu.be/vNBGrvpO05g

    Sodium cooled exhaust valves!

    Here's part II with more discussion of the CVT:

    https://youtu.be/CpXL-fTEoIc
     
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