Discussion in 'Toyota' started by Airbalancer, Apr 4, 2015.
Nice numbers Rich
A non-snickering, smug hybrid owner
Stark contrast tonight. 19°F, 20 MPH headwind, uphill. Lights, heat, seat warmers all on. Brrrr.
My wife would get rid of me, before her Prius C2..
I would trade the Ford Escape if I decided to get a new SUV.
But, since I hardly drive these days.. The 2009 Escape has around 6,000 miles on it.
I get the low-mileage insurance discount every year these days.
It's really not worth spending the extra money on a Hybrid.
The regular AWD Rav4 seems like it might be a less costly choice,
and it would give me a little better cargo space than the Ford.(IIRC).
And I'm sure the Rav4 roof racks will hold lightweight Kayaks..
Good analysis on your part. Just watch the price differential of the Hybrid and non-hybrid. They will close in and at some point you have to consider both the resale and fuel savings going forward.
That's still darn good, considering the conditions. The Prius C is a super light tiny-car that can get 70 MPG on short a pizza run, on flat road and a nice day.etc.
But in conditions similar to yours above, the C is going to get around 40 MPG.
Not just once in a while, I've seen 40 MPG about two dozen times this winter.
So that 37.2 MPG is dang good.. IMHO.
I have had to rent both the Escape and Rav4. I personally would go with the Rav. At least for me, Ford has really cramped cockpits and the rear seating is always a complaint with my crew. Even the cargo space felt better situated in the Rav.
Last month, I got the news that I would need to drive up some steep hills this winter..
So, I decided to dump the old 2009 FWD Escape and buy a 2014 AWD RAV4 LE.
Just picked it up today, and so far I really like it.. Of course I have no idea about what the MPG is around town..
It does have a dash display of the real-time MPG, and the average MPG.
There is also a trip computer display on the touch-screen .
Not sure if I'll even need my old Scan-gauge. It's programmed to display ATF temperature..
This is my first SUV with a back-up camera! It's wicked cool..
That red line on the display tells you how close you can park to another car, and still open the back hatch..
Congrats on the new ride! Are you planning to get a set of dedicated no-BS winter tires? If not I strongly urge you to do so. Toyota's AWD system is reported to be extremely good but it can only do its job if it has some traction to work with. Plus you still have to turn and stop.
I've read that a lot of people have very good luck with the stock M&S tires during their first winter or maybe two. But tire wear kills the traction pretty fast.
This car came with brand new tires (It has almost 52,000 miles on it), I'm thinking that I might get by with a few winters,
because we tend to drive the Prius C for almost all the time.. The old 2009 Escape had less than 9,000 miles on it..
Anyways, they are Hercules Terra Trac HTS tires.. http://www.herculestire.com/posts/2...w-terra-trac-hts-suvlight-truck-touring-tire/
Made it China of course. They 'look' okay to me. But, I know how nice real snow tires can be, so I've already been to the TireRack looking at narrow Snow tires and steel rims..
A package seem to be in the $1,000 range. However, I'm going to see if I can find some cheaper steel rims locally..
I have been looking at my news RAV4 tires and wondering if the pair of chains from the Escape might fit them.. The RAV4 manual says to use chains on the front wheels..
Have to do a test fit and see how they look..
I reset the average MPG on the dash display(which also has real-time MPG) and past history on the touch-screen MPG display. Which I really like. It displays a bar on a wide bar graph, for every 15 minutes of driving..
Some trips around town showed just under 22 MPG (for the same trips with the Escape FWD 2.4L I got 24 MPG)..
Yesterday, my good average was pulled down to 20 MPG after getting stuck in heavy traffic, twice! Gonna have to work on getting back to 22 or better..
Lucky for me, this car has an ECO button.. I'm not really good at Hypermiling, unless it's in the Prius C..
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