Scientists Concerned About Climate "Fixes"

Discussion in 'In the News' started by brick, Nov 26, 2014.

  1. NeilBlanchard

    NeilBlanchard Well-Known Member

    No sir, you are not correct. Those graphs are actual data. Science is not a matter of "belief" - it is a matter of tangible and checkable data, and our understanding of reality.

    Your conspiracy theory is the only bunk in this thread.
     
  2. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    Also, groups around the world are in collusion with the NOAA to ensure the cooked books match with one another.
     
  3. ksstathead

    ksstathead Moderator

    Peer review is really a subterfuge to ensure everyone tows the line.

    Only the oil companies and their purchased politicians are free of economic incentive in the debate.

    I see.
     
  4. worthywads

    worthywads Don't Feel Like Satan, I am to AAA

    If Easterbrook wants to be taken serious as a scientist he should consider publishing his work for review, and not just make speeches at Heartland Institution anti-science conventions.

    Obviously he has spent time and effort to make a case, with money from somewhere. Go legit and publish, but why, cheerleading to denier sheeple is way easy, and more profitable with Koch brother backing.

    Lindzen is well know for his blasting of global warming science, but even with tenure and funding he doesn't seem to manage to publish anything of merit to counter the warmists. An esteemed scientist doesn't make statements like you quoted, he argues with evidence.

    I've followed and was on the denier side for years, back in the 90s, I know all the players. Funny how you think you aren't parroting your sources, and have the real facts.

    You should try reading realclimate.com and skepticalscience.com along with wattsupwiththat.com, climate-skeptic.com, climateaudit.com and your other right wing funded propagandist sites. There really is a right wing funded conspiracy to prevent loss of profit. They fund the same groups that used to argue tobacco didn't cause cancer.
     
  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi WW, WXman and Neil:

    I learned quite a bit from your posts in this thread.

    Wayne
     
  6. ALS

    ALS Super Moderator Staff Member

    Hi Guys,

    I don't look at the last 100 years I look back thousands of years to see the normal flow of warming and cooling trends on the earth. You really should start looking at the sun and the lack of sun spots over the last few years. Funny thing happens when that occurs through out history on this planet, it cools dramatically. Look it up on Google it's called a solar minimum.

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  7. NeilBlanchard

    NeilBlanchard Well-Known Member

    That chart is bogus.
     
  8. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    I thought 2005 was warmer than 1998, why does that chart show it as being colder?
     
  9. worthywads

    worthywads Don't Feel Like Satan, I am to AAA

    Problem is we've had a very weak solar cycle and lack of sunspots for the last 5 years, and your denier sources have predicted because of this we should see cooling.

    We haven't seen cooling. Only some of the hottest years in the last 20.

    Where was the significant plunge in temperature they predicted?

    Your not schooling anyone ALS, we know about solar minimums, but this one isn't producing cooling, it's being offset by something.
     
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  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Dem Slams Climate Denying Colleague: You Can Believe Experts Or ‘Senator With Snowball’ (VIDEO)

    [flash]https://www.youtube.com/v/3E0a_60PMR8?version=3[/flash]

    Just after Republican Senator Jim Inhofe packed all his idiocy into a tiny snowball and (literally) threw it at his colleague on the Senate floor, Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse took the opportunity to brutally take down the stunt with a series of rhetorical questions that all center around the basic premise: “Who are you going to believe, people who know what they are talking about, or a politician with a snowball?”

    After some formalities, Whitehouse couldn’t help but bring up Inhofe’s snowball sideshow by asking people (but especially Inhofe’s ilk) to visit the Earth Now app for mobile devices that uses climate data from NASA to show the most up-to-date information on the Earth’s temperature, climate, and weather patterns.

    [flash]https://www.youtube.com/v/oTdpdFUTyqs?version=3[/flash]

    “And if you go to Earth Now it’s actually quite easy to load, and you can see how that polar vortex measurably brings the cold air down to New England where we are right now.

    And this is produced by NASA. These are pretty serious people. So you can believe NASA and you can believe what their satellites measure on the planet, or you can believe the Senator With The Snowball.”

    Wayne
     
  11. ALS

    ALS Super Moderator Staff Member

    Yep that is why they tied the coldest temperature ever recorded in Cuba this week.

    Record-low-temperature-in-Cuba-for-February

    How is this happening with all the global warming you keep telling me is going on ?

    1900 records for low temperatures broken last week according to NOAA. You really want to keep preaching at the Alter of Global Warming ?

    Oh you love NASA and believe everything they put out well here is one for you.

    earthobservatory.nasa.gov

    After shoveling my driveway for the second time today I would love to believe we have global warming occurring but no one have done anything to prove it other than send us more money to save the planet. These people are as believable as PETA is about caring to the animals. They just got busted for kidnapping a little girls three pound Chihuahua off her porch and killing it.
     
  12. ksstathead

    ksstathead Moderator

    It cold where I am this weekend, also. So that settles it for sure.
     
  13. ksstathead

    ksstathead Moderator

    Oh, wait. My city has broken 6 daily all-time highs and, wait for it...



    zero record daily lows the first 2 months of this year.
     
  14. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

  15. worthywads

    worthywads Don't Feel Like Satan, I am to AAA

    That you think that a tied coldest temperature record in Cuba nullifies climate science is hilarious. Weather vs Climate is impossible for you to grasp obviously.

    I guess you will accept that a record high of 72F shattering the old record of 68F in Boulder where I am located is equally proof that global warming is going on. That's not some lame "tied".

    http://www.dailycamera.com/weather/ci_27402633/boulder-weather-high-72-degrees-breaks-record
     
  16. worthywads

    worthywads Don't Feel Like Satan, I am to AAA

    Looks like 3 blocks of record coldest and around 90 blocks of record warmest for the month, not just a day in Cuba.

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  17. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    A local scientist in Aurora IL has recently determined that we are entering an Ice Age.
     
  18. ALS

    ALS Super Moderator Staff Member

    What I love it was all about that we were entering an Ice Age back in the seventies and when threat didn't work to scare the bucks out of the tax payers they switched sides to global warming. When the Global warming stopped eighteen years ago they realized they had to change the description again and now it's climate change.

    When they keep moving the goal posts constantly that is when you know it is a Hoax.

    Leonard Nimoy thirty eight years ago on the coming Ice age.

    [flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/L_861us8D9M?version=3[/flash]
     
  19. booferama

    booferama He who posts articles

    The funny thing is that I've debunked the "back in the seventies" falsehood so many times in this forum, and it doesn't matter. He'll still keep claiming it.
     
  20. Harold

    Harold Well-Known Member

    Some folks are oblivious to what going on around them. They are probably the ones that throw old oil in the back yard as well! Hal
     

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