Scientists Concerned About Climate "Fixes"

Discussion in 'In the News' started by brick, Nov 26, 2014.

  1. worthywads

    worthywads Don't Feel Like Satan, I am to AAA

    You are disagreeing with the study, not me.
     
  2. bestmapman

    bestmapman Fighting untruth and misinformation

    I'll look at it again after Christmas. Until then I am taking a break. Hope you have a good one.
     
  3. worthywads

    worthywads Don't Feel Like Satan, I am to AAA

    :Banane35:
     
  4. NeilBlanchard

    NeilBlanchard Well-Known Member

    A large fraction of the world's population lives within a few feet of sea level. And we are likely to have 2-3 feet this century - and maybe even as much as 6 feet.

    This alone will cause millions of people to have to migrate away from the coast. And guess where they will probably end up?

    One big drought in an area that grows a main food crop, and the whole world will feel it.

    Flooding is already a big problem in many areas around the world.

    We will be very lucky to stay below 2C warming. There is a a 30-40 lag in warming to the increase in total greenhouse gasses. So, if we stop cold tomorrow, there is another 0.8C-1C locked in, and we have already warmed 0.8C.

    At current rates, and we do nothing, we will hit 6C+ very quickly, and then all bets are off.

    We have about 12-15 years to make a serious dent - like a 50% cut in greenhouse gas emissions, if we want to avoid the worst. 4/5ths of the worlds known fossil fuel reserves have to stay in the ground.
     
  5. wxman

    wxman Well-Known Member

    We are getting a lot more data from more sources for weather prediction models also. They're also higher resolution (the NAM model is now 4 km horizontal resolution over CONUS). However, the NWP model predictions are not really getting noticeably better.

    And as I mentioned in a previous post, how do we know how well the parameterizations in the climate models work under unprecedented conditions?
     
  6. NeilBlanchard

    NeilBlanchard Well-Known Member

    They are constantly checking the climate models against new data - this is the whole point of having models.

    The general trend seems to be almost always on the worst case scenarios. Arctic ice is melting much more quickly than was thought possible even just a few years ago, etc.
     
  7. worthywads

    worthywads Don't Feel Like Satan, I am to AAA

    A Climate Central analysis shows that 13 of the hottest 15 years on record have all occurred since 2000 and that the odds of that happening randomly without the boost of global warming is 1 in 27 million.

    There are small differences in the way various agencies handle global temperature data, yielding sometimes different rankings for particular months and years. But for 2014, there is broad agreement on the ranking, and for all agencies, nine of the 10 warmest years on record have all occurred since 2000.

    So much for the "no warming since 1998 meme BS.


    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/broken-record-2014-proves-hottest-year/
     
  8. ALS

    ALS Super Moderator Staff Member

    After getting caught flat out lying, NASA ad NOAA now say they are 38% sure 2014 was the hottest.:rolleyes:

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    There are millions of dollars in Federal funding on the line these people will do anything to keep their cushy jobs. If funding gets cut because there isn't any global warming they're unemployed when the budgets are cut.

    The eighteen year pause continues.

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  9. worthywads

    worthywads Don't Feel Like Satan, I am to AAA

    You quibble about whether 2014 was warmest or not while ignoring that 9 of the 10 warmest years have been since 2000.

    You don't seem to realize that your information shows that 2014 is by far the most likely warmest year, beating all others, and that 1998 spike that all the deniers like to start with is only 4-5%. What is your claim again?

    Doesn't matter if this year wasn't more than 52% or 38% certain the hottest, the 18 year pause claim is 100% false.

    Anything besides climate depot opinion pieces to back the 18 year pause?
     
  10. worthywads

    worthywads Don't Feel Like Satan, I am to AAA

    Where is that 18 year pause?


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  11. booferama

    booferama He who posts articles

    A good explanation of what worthywads is getting at here. Also, Climate Depot is run by a guy with a B.A. in Political Science.
     
  12. wxman

    wxman Well-Known Member

    The State of the Climate report also states that global precipitation was near average for the third consecutive year, and the U.S. continues to recover from the 2012 drought.

    The number of Atlantic basin tropical systems was below average again.

    The Northern Hemisphere snow cover extent was above the 1981-2010 average during last winter (December 2013 - February 2014).

    For the third consecutive year, tornado activity was well below average. 2014 was the third consecutive year that the number of confirmed tornadoes was below 1000, which hasn't happened since 1987 - 1989 (before deployment of the WSR-88D Doppler radar system).
     
  13. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

  14. worthywads

    worthywads Don't Feel Like Satan, I am to AAA

  15. ALS

    ALS Super Moderator Staff Member

    Australian Climate Scientists destroy the Climate Change Hoax.

    If you come out against climate change hoax you can kiss your career good bye.
    The bureaucrats cut off all funding for you. It is a political agenda not science.

    [flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/C35pasCr6KI?version=3[/flash]


    Dr. Don Easterbrook Exposes Climate Change Hoax (126 minutes)

    He destroys all the bogus arguments that the climate change believers put out as settled science.

    [flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/TqVE-uiHs7w?version=3[/flash]
     
  16. NeilBlanchard

    NeilBlanchard Well-Known Member

    He destroys his own career - because he is simply wrong.

    Believing that climate change is a conspiracy theory zeros out your credibility.
     
  17. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    Could probably get a good job working for an oil company.
     
  18. worthywads

    worthywads Don't Feel Like Satan, I am to AAA

    He already has that job, or a coal company. Dr John Easterbrook has a PHD in Geology, and that is ALS's expert. :biglol:
     
  19. worthywads

    worthywads Don't Feel Like Satan, I am to AAA

    So ALS, apparently you can't defend your 18 year pause claim?
     
  20. ALS

    ALS Super Moderator Staff Member

    Yes I can since NOAA has been nailed manipulating historic temperatures to show global warming today. They are taking past temperature readings and massaging them by lowering historic warmer temperatures to show global warming is occurring today when it isn't.

    That graph is a total lie.

    See video below where he points out on how NOAA/NASA got rid of those pesky warmer years off their data.

    The graphs you are showing are COMPUTER MODELS not actual temperatures.

    I posted this video obviously you didn't watch it. Hint start watching at 23:30 and you might learn something other than the propaganda you repeat over and over like a parrot.

    [flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/TqVE-uiHs7w?version=3[/flash]


     

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