Honda at the 2014 LA Auto Show – It’s called the HR-V

Discussion in 'Reviews' started by xcel, Nov 19, 2014.

  1. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    That is a pleasant surprise. What kind of RPMs were you seeing with the CVT?
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2015
  2. johnji

    johnji Member

    Wow! Really awesome! what's the price of this car in $?
     
  3. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Golly, I wonder what will happen if I click on this clown's link ?
     
  4. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    I test drove a CVT the other week - van was in for a warranty fix and I was waiting.

    I think they're asking $25k for that one, and I'm not sure which trim it was.

    Nice seats - both it and the new Fit are head and shoulders better than my old Fit. The CVT wasn't bad to drive, it felt not unlike the Odyssey's regular automatic. The FR-V is a bit soft handling for my liking, but it's a nice place to be, with a bump up in hip room and cargo space from the Fit. It's like the old CR-V updated and un-bloated.

    I found the Fit a great space to sit in and the ergonomics were just fine.
     
  5. WriConsult

    WriConsult Super Moderator

    Sounds pretty great. One big question, since these have supposedly been out for a while, is why don't I see any HR-Vs on the road? I think I might have seen ONE, a few months ago. I would think they'd be all over the roads by now.

    Also, I just reread Wayne's review. Raises one question in my mind: What is an HDMI port doing in a moving vehicle?
     
  6. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Because Americans can never have too much "infotainment". It's much more "fun" than actually paying attention to the road.

    I haven't seen a single HR-V around here.
     
  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    A few final statements since I am buried with work here.

    The 16 Accord Sport we drove a few weeks ago was one of the best mid-size non-hybrid/non-diesel cars we have driven. It did so much right from the comfortable fit and efficiency to the ride and handling quotient.

    The 16 Civic from the static reveals is one of the best "fitting" compacts we have sat in although this is from an instant in time impression. We will not see one until after Thanksgiving at the earliest as Honda is pushing it to the NACOTY jurors all over the country. :(

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    The HR-V basking in a nighttime Southern California light show.​

    Unfortunately these superlatives do not follow through to either the Fit or HR-V. These are two of the worst fitting cars I have ever driven. My right knee is rubbed raw, by shin and calf muscles were aching due to no lower cushion thigh support and odd accelerator pedal angle, and the Infotainment is crap. I tried to voice in a POI as the LA Convention Center. I was F'in around for over 20 minutes and it was asking me to spell the destination letter by letter with the push to talk, pardon or finally providing the wrong destination anyway. I finally pulled over, spoke into my phone, google provided an address, options to route using guided Google Maps, an overview of the place and POIs nearby. I then entered the address manually into the HR-Vs NAVI and was on my way. 100 percent total F'in failure.

    Then we have the no knobs display audio. Not going to work in the real world. It just is not fast enough although the excellent feeling steering wheel controls worked to reduce that problem. Except for the fact you have to get into that display to do most things. The Accord/Mazda/Audi Commander control dials are needed in this thing so badly.

    Every time I connected up the Galaxy S5 via BT and then plugged it in to charge, it would bring up Honda's Connect system and lock up the phone in strange ways. As in the Power button no longer worked and every app would open up in Landscape mode. I did not install any Honda app for this either!!! I had to pull my S5 out of its case, open up the back and pull the battery 3 G** D***** times to reset it after that BS. Never have I ever had to do that with anything else!!!

    The dash is hard plastic top and bottom with a soft plastic center horizontal insert and molded in stitching. One of the few redeeming features was that soft center trim piece. Even on extensions, the sun visors do not extend far enough and there is no sunglass holder.

    This kind of crap was acceptable a few years ago but the bar has been moved and it continues to move far beyond what the HR-V offers today.

    As mentioned previously, the HR-V feels very rushed. There is little in this entire compact segment to get excited about as they are B-segment cars placed on lifted chassis. Meaning you get all of the worst attributes of the cheapest cars on the road with even worse handling traits. The HR-V handled ok by the way.

    In other words, stay away from this. I can think of a hundred cars you should be spending $25k+ on other than this one and many of those recommendations would come from within the Honda lineup. I am speaking about the all-new 16 Civic and refreshed 16 Accord trims. Just not the Fit or the HR-V.

    Wayne
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2015
  8. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    It's funny you say that, wayne, because the Fit and HR-V I just drove last week I though were perfectly fine vehicles. Bordering on luxurious, even, compared to what the Fit was 5 years before.

    I care nothing about the infotainment or navigation options. Well, I agree that the lack of actual radio buttons is stupid.

    You say it handled ok, I say it was too soft. You complain about the poor interior, I say it's fine. It's pretty clear where each of us has our priorities and they're distinctly different.
     
  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Andrew:

    The bar is moving and a 5-year old interior does not belong in a modern car. The 2012 Civic was a perfect example. They had two interior refreshes in two years to cure some of that mess. With the all-new 2016, Honda has moved the Civic from one of the worst to one of if not the best interior in the segment.

    A $25k HR-V with this interior is way behind the curve as is many of its competitors.

    Wayne
     
  10. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    The 2016 Civic that I test drove also had no physical buttons for the radio. I already use my steering wheels controls to control most radio functions, so this would actually not be a big deal for me.

    I know Car & Driver maybe loves the Fit a little too much. But their final words on the HR-V were interesting.

     
  11. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Dawn in sunny Southern California and the 16 Honda HR-V and I are ready to tackle the 5/405 between San Diego and the City of Angels. Why? For one last look at the LAAS 2015 at the LA Convention Center...

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    Great number of cars on the floor to explore with the automotive journalists numbers dwindling down to minimum.

    Wayne
     
  12. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    The cargo space is distinctly BIGGER than the Fit, which is a good selling point for some (like me). The cargo area is taller and longer and wider, and the seats magic-fold like the Fit to allow ridiculous feats of Tardis-ing.
     
  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    This morning the 2016 Honda HR-V Named "2016 Green SUV of the Year" by Green Car Journal

    The reason? Unsurpassed fuel economy in the subcompact crossover segment in combination with fun-to-drive performance, sporty design and spacious, versatile packaging. The HR-V was third Honda model honored by the magazine within the last five years.

    The "Green SUV of the Year" award recognizes the all-new HR-V for its class-leading environmental performance – a top fuel economy rating of 35 mpg highway in FWD CVT format.

    The 2016 HR-V is the third Honda brand vehicle honored by the magazine in the past five years, joining prior Green Car of the Year Award winners, the 2012 Civic Natural Gas and the 2014 Accord.

    Wayne
     

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