Ones a concept, ones ready for the road but neither are really ready for prime time. Wayne Gerdes - CleanMPG - Nov. 17, 2014 2016 Toyota Mirai FCV - $499 per month/36 month lease with $3649 due at lease signing, or purchase for $57,500 with free H2 fuel where you can find it for three years. In other words, there is little chance that Toyota's first generation consumer available FCV goes mainstream at these price points. The Toyota Mirai is a four-door, mid-size sedan based off the now defunct HS 250h platform that never consumes gasoline and emits nothing but water vapor from its tailpipe. The fuel cell electric vehicle (FCV) is powered by H2, re-fuels in about five minutes, and Toyota says it travels up to 300 miles on a full tank. Mirai will be available to customers in California beginning next fall with additional markets following the hydrogen refueling infrastructure build out. 2016 Toyota Mirai FCV at the Torrance Shell H2 Refueling Station Toyota’s 153 hp fuel cell stack is located under the front driver and passenger seats whereas the Electric drivetrain is located under the hood like a standard BEV/ICE would be. The FCV is capable of driving the midsize sedan to 60 mph in 9.0 seconds. THe NVH is a little higher than expected but typical for a compact segment sedan. 2016 Toyota Mirai FCV Drvietrain It will be available with an optional power take off (PTO) device - CHAdeMo? - that enables Mirai to serve as a mobile generator to your home for up to a week from a full tank in the event of a power outage. This is actually a cool feature other than the 240V connection and grid disconnect needed for home use. 2016 Toyota Mirai Home Power Port Mirai will include vehicle pre-collision, blind spot monitor, lane departure alert, drive start control and automatic high beams. 2016 Toyota Mirai Interior For those considering a purchase, state and federal incentives of $13,000 available to many customers could see the price drop to as low as $45,000. Unfortunately the $8,000 + Fed Credit disappears on Dec. 31, 2014 with little chance of renewal. Even with three years of very localized free fuel, the cost problem mounts. Toyota 360-degree Ownership Experience 24/7 concierge service, with calls answered by a dedicated fuel cell representative 24/7 enhanced roadside assistance, including towing, battery, flat tire assistance, trip interruption reimbursement, and loaner vehicle Three years of Toyota Care maintenance, which covers all recommended factory maintenance, up to 12,000 miles annually Eight-year/100,000-mile warranty on fuel cell components Entune and three years of complimentary Safety Connect, including H2 station map app Complimentary H2 fuel for up to three years By the end of 2015, 3 of California’s 9 active hydrogen stations and 17 newly-constructed stations are scheduled to be opened to the general public, with 28 additional stations set to come online by the end of 2016, bringing the near-term total to 48 stations. Nineteen of those 48 stations will be built by FirstElement Fuels, supported by a $7.3 million loan from Toyota. The company has also announced additional efforts to develop infrastructure in the country’s Northeast region. In 2016, Air Liquide, in collaboration with Toyota, is targeting construction of 12 stations in five states – New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island. Honda’s Latest FCV Effort The Honda FCV Concept also made its world debut today in Japan. The Honda FCV Concept showcases the styling evolution of Honda's fuel-cell vehicle anticipated to launch in Japan by March of 2016, followed by U.S. and Europe. 2016 Honda FCV Concept The Honda FCV Concept features a low and wide aerodynamic body with clean character lines. The interior is said to provide more passenger volume than its predecessor, the FCX Clarity which felt very much like an Accord. Honda's next-generation fuel-cell vehicle has its fuel-cell powertrain located in the front engine compartment. The stack has a specific output of 134 hp while offering arrange of over 300 miles with a quick refueling time of about three to five minutes at a pressure of just over 10,000 psi. Honda made no mention of where the FC stack itself was located, only the electric powertrain? In June 2013, Honda entered into a long-term collaborative agreement with GM to co-develop the next-generation of FC systems and H2 storage technologies, aiming for the 2020 timeframe. The collaboration expects to succeed by sharing technological expertise, economies of scale and other benefits. Early Conclusions The problem as I see it IS Gasoline, Diesel, and Electricity are far too cheap for a very expensive, limited region and somewhat limited range medium performance first and second generation FCV to compete. 2014 Audi A6 TDI at the Torrance Shell H2 Refueling Station $58,700 to start, 240 hp, 428 lb-ft. of torque TDI mated to an 8-speed AT: 0 to 60 in 5.5 seconds, EU top speed of 155 mph, limited to 130 mph in the U.S. and 40 + mpg is easy on $3.40/gallon diesel. Will the masses consider a futuristic first generation Toyota Corolla/Camry sized FCV or second generation Honda Civic/Accord sized FCV with mediocre performance and limited refueling options or would they rather own a "no compromise" automobile like the Audi A6 TDI for similar scratch + refueling costs? Even the most strident FCV fans should be able to deduce that this is an overwhelming dilemma. The H2 Question - Still Undecided Like the first gen Toyota Prius based on the FUGLY Echo back in 1997, the first gen Toyota Murai is only a first step. No other manufacturer is pushing into the FCV space as hard as Toyota and you will see a lot more marketing $s spent depsite the limited uptake. Just 3,000 worldwide by 2017 according to Toyota. The industry knows there is little chance for profitability with these offerings yet it is a start. If by 2025 the FCV revolution does not bare real fruit, only then can any of us claim the entire endeavor is a complete failure. As of today, prototyping a technology for technologies sake pays dividends with other future offerings. Even if they are not FCV powered.