2014 RAM 1500 EcoDiesel Heads West

Discussion in 'In the News' started by xcel, Aug 15, 2014.

  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Fusion210:

    When you see the next set of hourly update pics, you will see how the average Joe or Jane will so easily pull 30 mpg from this truck when racing down the highway. Impressive to say the least. And 40 + mpg from a full sized Pickup is kind of stupid high isn't it. ;)

    I have to drive it to LA and swap into a RAM 3500 with the 6.7L Cummins and will be sad to see this great work truck go.

    Edwin, the way RAM designed the Fuel filler system, it has two flaps with the lower being the real filler neck. Any fuel above this second inner flap drips out of an overflow under the truck. You can see it with your eye if you are looking very closely just as it comes up to the second filler neck but I could not capture it with the camera.

    In any case, the truck used slightly less than 1/4 of its full onboard DEF tank - > 3/4 to > 1/2 over 2,500 miles. The DEF refill port is right next to the diesel inlet.

    2014 RAM 1500 Tradesman with the EcoDiesel

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    Wayne
     
  2. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    2014 RAM 1500 Tradesman with the 3.0L EcoDiesel visits Cadillac Ranch

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    [fflash=left]http://www.youtube.com/v/mA6j_o55sgM?version=3[/fflash]Bruce Springsteen’s Cadillac Ranch

    Cadillac Ranch is visible from I-40 just west of Amarillo, Texas.

    Besides visiting, attendees are encouraged to bring their spray paint cans and add their own graffiti on the row of 10 Cadillac’s.

    According to Wiki, the Cadillac Ranch was created by Chip Lord and Doug Michaels, both architects and Hudson Marquez, an art student at Tulane at the time. All were a part of the art group Ant Farm.

    Apparently there was a book meant for kids left in a bar near where two of the artists lived. It was called ‘The Look of Cars,’ and there was something on the rise and fall of the tail fin. Marquez added, “I didn’t have a lot to do, so I just sorta drew it up. I’ve always loved the Cadillac’s.”

    The group identified Texas millionaire Stanley Marsh III among those who might be able to fund the project.

    Marsh's response began "It’s going to take me awhile to get used to the idea of the Cadillac Ranch. I’ll answer you by April Fool’s Day. It’s such an irrelevant and silly proposition that I want to give it all my time and attention so I can make a casual judgement of it."

    Construction Begins

    The artists purchased ten used 1948 to 1963 Cadillac's and buried them nose down in a field along the original Rt. 66. They also angled them in such a way to pay homage to the Pyramids of Giza.

    By 1974 the project was completed and visitors from all over the world began leaving their own graffiti on the graffiti covered cars.

    Cadillac Ranch

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    In 1997, the Cadillac Ranch was moved approximately two miles to the west as Amarillo was expanding.

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    Stanley March, the land owner, passed away just two months ago at the age of 76.

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    Not a fan of the Graffitti and human garbage, both encouraged to be added too, but I am a huge fan of the artwork.

    Wayne
     
  3. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    And the high speed, fast climb, high altitude run between Amarillo and the AZ border. Look at the avg. speeds from Hour 1 through 7. The power of the Turbo Diesel clearly shows through.

    2014 RAM 1500 Tradesman with the 3.0L EcoDiesel – Amarillo to AZ

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    Entering New Mexico.

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    Hour 1 through 3…

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    Passing Side or Suicide?

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    Hour 4 and a few hours later entering AZ.

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    Entering Arizona.

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    Hour 7 – 39.9 mpg at 5,579’ ASL – 68 mph avg. speed.​

    Wayne
     
  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    A lot more to come but I have to drive the RAM 1500 Tradesman to LA to pickup a RAM 3500 HD with the 6.7L Cummins for a review.

    Wayne
     
  5. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    WOW
    70-76 mph-uphill into the wind-1000 lbs in bed
    33MPG AT OVER 70 MPH!!
    Yikes!

    Steel wheels-just noticed the steel wheels??
    Should remind you of you Chevette Scooter-
    but base models have come a LONG LONG WAY
    and that Ram-probably BEATS the HY mpg of the chevette-certainly at 76 mph it does
    And the Chevette would have LOTS of problems hitting 76 mph at altitude
    Those carbs JUST DIED and sucked fuel at anything over sea level


    The Amarillo to Flagstaff leg
    I-40-600 miles or so
    I have done many many times over the years
    For some reason-other than the 5000 ft elevation gain
    we ALWAYS get 10 PERCENT less east to west than west to east
    I suspect it is the prevailing winds in the summer-they favor W TO EAST
    But the MPG will be good-the thinner air really improves FE on bulky vehicles
    we get 5% better(than NOLA to Amarillo) with the suburban on that leg

    I think I calculated that the 5000 ft gain cost maybe another 1.5 gallons in the suburban
    Probably assumed 20% efficiency 6000 lbs-however many ft lbs watt hrs joules it takes to
    haul 6000 lbs up 5000 ft

    Have fun
    Charlie
    PS Grilled cheese over a fire-sounds good-too good
     
  6. RoadWarrior222

    RoadWarrior222 rockit serjun

    Steelies are the new bling-bling spinner gold plated dubs, dawg....


    .... Nissan had to give me wheel locks with the Note SV just so no thieving bastage would make off with them, that's how popular they are now.





    (Seriously, they gave me wheel locks on my steelies)
     
  7. kmillerone

    kmillerone New Member

    High altitude fix
    If my memory has not failed me, I think the Chevette had a small circuit board in a plastic holder under the dash that you could pull out, turn around and reinsert for high altitude driving. Not sure if it helped drive-ability or fuel economy. I know it existed and almost sure it was the Chevette.

    Couldn't get over 27MPG out of my old Chevette.

    Never would have thought 40+ was possible in a truck.
     
  8. RoadWarrior222

    RoadWarrior222 rockit serjun

    Fords had that, an octane plug in the harness for mountain gas.
     
  9. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    Why not steel wheels on a work truck? It functions well, lasts a long time, doesn't attract thieves, and doesn't add needless cost.

    Hmm... That's about right. In rough numbers:
    6000lb×5000ft=30,000,000ft-lb;
    30,000,000ft-lb/778ft-lb/BTU=36,560 BTU [at 100% efficiency];
    36,560 Btu/.2 = 182,800 BTU [at 20%];
    182,800Btu/20,000Btu/lb=9.14 lb;
    9.14 lb/6.2 lb/gal=1.47 gallons.

    It makes more sense to say, as you did, that the climb cost you 1.5 gallons than to say it cost xx mpg, as many people would.
     
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2014
  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Charlie:

    Few cars have really impressed the hell out of me compared to their EPA. The Passat TDI with the stick of course, the Audi A6/A7/Q5 with the 3.0L TDI, and the Accord Hybrid.

    I have to say the RAM with the EcoDiesel has also achieved similar accolades in my eyes. Not compared to any car/CUV exactly but compared to the Pickup truck competitive set both here now (Silverado with the 4.3L) and coming up (F150 with the 2.7L EcoBoost).

    Rumors abound that the 2.7L EB in an SFE trim will be rated at 28 + mpg highway as well but that probably includes the company's ever popular 10 to 20 percent rating over what it will provide let alone up against a TD with this kind of towing cap. Call me skeptical if they advertise that. This TD simply has too much going for it for any gas engine to compete.

    Saying that, wait until I show you what the big beast pulled from San Diego to Long Beach California this morning. Absolutely scary how efficient this thing can be.

    Roadwarror, they probably gave you wheel locks because they place them on everything for a few extra $s. In the U.S., it is a common scam.

    Kmillerone, my old Chevette Scooter would have had the go pedal buried in the firewall to reach 75 mph in a slight climb. To climb I40s rollers would have probably required a lot more than it was capable of too! And the RAM 1500 would eat it alive! ;)

    RedylC94, you math junkie you. :)

    The second tank was kind of scary at first - to reach 40 mpg w/ the huge climbs - but it worked out in the end as well.

    Wayne
     
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2014
  11. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    2014 RAM 1500 Tradesman with the EcoDiesel visits Sedona, AZ

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    Sedona, AZ

    Sedona was named after Sedona Arabella Miller Schnebly (1877–1950), the wife of Theodore Carlton Schnebly, the city's first postmaster. Its main draw is the multi-faceted red sandstone formations proving differing deep shades of orange and red as the sun rises and sets.

    The first documented human presence in Sedona area dates to between 11500 to 9000 B.C. by the Paleo-Indians.

    The last of the large Indian tribes, the Yavapai and Apache, were forcibly removed from the Verde Valley in 1876, to the San Carlos Indian Reservation. About 1,500 people were marched, to San Carlos in Midwinter with several hundred losing their lives.

    Sedona and Hollywood

    Sedona played host to more than sixty Hollywood productions from the first years of movies into the 1970s. The unspoiled landscape was and continues to be an ideal location to shoot outdoor scenes. Stretching as far back as 1923, Sedona’s red rocks were a fixture in major Hollywood productions but typically were identified to audiences as the terrain of Texas, California, Nevada, and even Canadian border territory.

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    Wayne
     
  12. jcp123

    jcp123 Caliente!

    Ah, yes, this is the part of my drive to Texas which I really relished...most excellent!
     
  13. RoadWarrior222

    RoadWarrior222 rockit serjun

    I dunno, you could compare it to fullsize cars and crossovers, none of those are "up there" with it.

    Kind of a shame that it's pentastar equipped brother gets eclipsed, I've heard of people hitting 30mpg in that. 3 years ago, THAT would have been the truck to beat.
     
  14. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi James:

    Driving down 89a out of Flagstaff to Sedona was one of the best drive routes I have ever taken. When we got to Sedona, WOW!

    RoadWarrior, read the review on the RAM 1500 with the 3.6L Pentastar. Good stuff.

    Wayne
     
  15. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    2014 RAM 1500 Tradesman with the 3.0L EcoDiesel – 2nd Tank

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    Prescott Valley, AZ Shell.

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    818.1 miles indicated/825.7 miles actual on 20.001 gallons = 41.3 mpg vs 41.4 mpg displayed. Saved $0.03/gal with the Fuel Rewards Network Card.​

    Climbed from 3,100' to 5,100' with multiple trips to 7,100' on this tank. Ran AC at darn near 70 mph for 7-hours while driving between Amarillo and Flagstaff. Impressive in my book!

    At 5,100' now and have to drive to sea level over the next 400 + miles. 41.1 on the first, 41.3 on the second. And a mile to fall over a short distance spells success in my book.

    Wayne
     
  16. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    One of many impromptu stops to water local fauna. It looked pretty dry out there. ;) This one in the AZ desert.

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    2014 RAM 1500 Tradesman with the 3.0L EcoDiesel Reaches California

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    Wayne
     
  17. Airbalancer

    Airbalancer Well-Known Member

    :thumbs_up:
    That says it all
     
  18. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    While heading towards San Diego, instead of taking I-40 to LA and heading south, we take a unique route along CA78 towards I8. While on 78, we will pass a unique location within the state of California. It is called Glamis…

    2014 RAM 1500 Tradesman with the EcoDiesel reaches Imperial Dunes just outside Glamis

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    Situated east of the Imperial Valley, the dunes are bordered to the west by the Coachella Canal, a waterway diverting Colorado River water to agricultural lands further north.

    The dune system consists of three areas. The northernmost area is known as Mammoth Wash. This open area allows OHV use and offers a more isolated experience.

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    The southernmost boundary of the wilderness is State Highway 78; just south of this highway the largest and most heavily used dunes are found. These dunes may be traveled south toward the Mexican border.

    Glamour shots of the RAM 1500 from the Imperial Dunes

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    I thought it was a better idea to simply stop here. ;)

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    Wayne
     
  19. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Yeah ! I did that route on a bicycle when I was 19. Talk about switchbacks ! I seem to recall passing cars on the tight ones. Luckily, my friend's dad brought us and the bikes back to Flagstaff in a pickup truck. We didn't really plan on riding UPHILL.
     
  20. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Edwin:

    There were some bicyclists flying down 89a that day. Some of the surface was recently paved making it track smooth too!

    Since the 40 mpg cross country drive was essentially a slam dunk with only 400 + miles to go from the second fill in Prescott Valley, AZ we took CA78 as shown above, jumped on the I8 to climb almost to the top of the Laguna Mountain range just outside San Diego and jumped on the switchback ladened CA94 for a little fun.

    Mark and I arrived at Marian’s Northern San Diego apartment just after dusk with the following. No need to fill with the following final result and knowing the calibration, we can calculate the cross country drives total cumulative result.

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    2014 RAM 1500 Tradesman was parked closer to the wall than the entire row of CUVs, PU, and Sedan in this shot.

    2014 RAM 1500 Tradesman with the 3.0L EcoDiesel – Final

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    413.2 mi at 38.3 mpg = 417.0 actual miles at 38.5 mpg.​

    Tank 1: 1,071 miles on 25.809 gallons
    Tank 2: 825.7 miles on 20.001 gallons
    Final drive: 417.0 miles on calculated 10.831 gallons

    Totals: 2,313.7 miles on 56.641 gallons = a final 40.8 mpg actual to cross a large portion of the country from the IL/WI border to the Pacific Ocean in the mighty 2014 RAM 1500 with the powerful yet hyper efficient 3.0L EcoDiesel. A World Record for a full-sized pickup.

    But that is not all… ;)

    Wayne
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2014

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