It’s Official, 2014 RAM’s with the 3.0L EcoDiesel Kicks Everyone’s @$$

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG]28 mpgUS highway which means about 31 mpgUS actual for those that want to take a more fuel efficient path for their pickup truck needs.

    [fimg=left]http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/2014_RAM_1500_-_3_0L_EcoDiesel.jpg[/fimg]Wayne Gerdes - CleanMPG - Feb. 4, 2014

    2014 RAM 1500 with the 3.0L EcoDiesel – It will not be inexpensive but it is sure to put the beat down on the rest of the segment.

    As if we did not know the Fiat/Chrysler 3.0L EcoDiesel was already a class leader in terms of Light Duty (LD) pickup and SUV fuel economy performance. With our recent 1,118 mile drive in less than 24-hours including an overnight coming in at a solid 42 + mpg while behind the wind screen of the 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the same 3.0L EcoDiesel, was it any wonder it the RAM 1500 with the same engine would provide a class leading fuel economy rating as well? And it is not just class leading, it is “CLASS DOMINATING”!

    Shell and a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Star in the #TracktoTrack Challenge

    The EPA certification results posted this morning mean Ram not only keeps the half-ton fuel-economy record set last year with the 2013 Ram 1500 but tops that by a good margin! The 2013 RAM 1500 equipped with the 3.6L Pentastar V6 gasoline engine was a stellar addition to the light duty pickup truck marketplace and proved itself during our very short 3-day test drive in conditions more akin to prepping for winter and later building igloo’s then achieving high fuel economy.

    2013 RAM 1500 HFE Arrives Soon and in particular, the 36.78 mpgUS actual result in 41 degree F temps proved without a doubt that the new 25 mpgUS highway rated Pentastar equipped 1500 RAM was going to be a proven winner.

    The 2014 Ram 1500 now owns the half-ton pickup segment’s top two spots in the EPA’s 2014 highway fuel-economy rankings.

    Reid Bigland, President and CEO Ram Truck Brand:
    In a slight towards Ford, RAM got aggressive and reiterated the new trucks 6 mpg fuel economy advantage over the best 2014 Ford F150 Eco-Boost.

    The 3.0L EcoDiesel is the first and only advanced-technology turbo-diesel offered in the half-ton pickup segment. In addition to superior fuel economy, it delivers an incredible 420 lb.-ft. of torque which is unsurpassed among full-size trucks equipped with any other V6 engine.

    The all-new engine’s block and bedplate are made from lightweight Compacted Graphite Iron (CGI). The stuff Ford’s next generation 2015 2.7L EcoBoost will be made out of. Its performance is enhanced by the innovative MultiJet 2 common-rail fuel-injection system, able to provide up to 8-injections per combustion event to reduce emissions, improve throttle response, improve combustion for better fuel economy and reduce clatter that most older diesels are shod with.

    Like many of the all-new car and small SUV/CUV turbo diesels beginning to make their presence known within the U.S., the all-new 3.0L EcoDiesel features Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) with diesel exhaust fluid (DEF), a diesel particulate filter (DPF), high-pressure cooled Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR), variable swirl intake ports and a variable-geometry turbocharger.

    The 3.0L EcoDiesel up close and "In Your Face" personal

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    Yup, that there is the 3.0L monster in sheep’s clothing. :)

    Already one of Ward’s 10 Best Engines for 2014, the 3.0L EcoDiesel was a significant factor in the Ram 1500’s selection as 2014 Motor Trend Truck of the Year. The Ram 1500 is the first vehicle to win this prestigious award in back to back years.

    Mated to that magnificent beast of an engine is Chrysler’s smooth shifting TorqueFlite 8-speed automatic. While enabling optimal engine speed in a wide range of driving and towing conditions, the advanced-technology gearbox benefits from a thermal-management system that quickly warms transmission oil to reduce pumping losses associated with cold, low-viscosity fluid.

    Like the RAM 1500 HFE details linked above, the RAM 1500 with the 3.0L Eco Diesel arrives with the following efficiency features:
    • Active grille shutters
    • Electric Power Steering (EPS)
    • Lightweight aluminum for components – such as hoods – that do not compromise capability

    Pricing for the 2014 Ram 1500 starts at $24,200, plus $1,195 destination. The 3.0L V6 EcoDiesel with TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission is priced $2,850 greater than a similarly equipped Ram 1500 with a 5.7-liter HEMI V8 and only in higher trims.

    RAM stated EcoDiesel model ordering will begin on Friday with delivery soon after that.

    Unlike most turbo diesel powertrains within cars, trucks, CUV/SUVs in America, RAM backs theirs with an outstanding five-year /100,000-mile Powertrain Limited Warranty. The powertrain-limited warranty, which is transferrable, covers the cost of all parts and labor needed to repair a covered powertrain component – engine, transmission and drive system.

    The standard three-year / 36,000-mile Basic Limited Warranty provides bumper-to-bumper coverage for the Ram 1500, from the body to the electrical system.

    The 2014 Ram 1500 is built at the Warren Truck Assembly Plant (Warren, Mich.), which has assembled more than 12.5 million trucks since it started operations in 1938. Regular Cab models of the 2014 Ram 1500 are built at the Saltillo Truck Assembly Plant in Saltillo, Mexico.

    All-in, if you really need a pickup truck, please consider the RAM 1500 with the 3.0L EcoDiesel. You will be doing your part to save a natural resource and reduce emissions while placing long term low total cost of ownership (TCO) savings back into your retirement nest egg instead of the pump.

    2014 RAM 1500 with the 3.0L EcoDiesel Prototype Short City Drive Loop

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    It will be hard to top this one on a drive loop of any type and in any condition.​

    It will be interesting to see what GM will do with their 2.8L turbo diesel equipped Canyon/Colorado small pickup scheduled to arrive in mid 2015 and what Ford will do with their 2015 F150. Even with the massive light weighting strategy and small displacement 2.7L EcoBoost, it will probably have its @$$ handed to it by the RAM 1500 equipped with the 3.0L EcoDiesel in more ways than one.

    Good job RAM and it is great to see fuel economy moving towards a segment that will do the most good. Thank you.
     
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2014
  2. ksstathead

    ksstathead Moderator

    Nice to see a ray of hope for Chrysler.

    Would like to get my father in law to consider this to replace his Ranger/F350 pair. He'd need to hire out the heavy work, but this should suffice day to day.
     
  3. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    WOW!

    But I'm still more impressed with the 25mpg 3.6 spark motor.
    Real price-you will be able to buy one of them for maybe $10,000 less than the cheapest 3.0TD.
    No one will get the TD off the lot for under maybe $33000+TTL-
    Pretty sure I've seen $23000 for the 3.6

    All fords weight loss-MIGHT get them combined MPG same as the 3.6(which will be WORLDS CHEAPER)- but it sure won't touch 28mpg hy

    GM-will have PROBLEMS-can't afford to match Fords weight loss program-and can't get quite 25mpg -and they have no 1/2 ton TD (the Canyon Colorado-kinda pointless-they don't beat the 1/2 ton Dodge in FE- or price-so why bother??)
    Less truck same mpg more or less same price ???? and if GM runs to form the TD will be really really pricey???

    Dodge (Fiat) has worked a miracle-worlds better than MB treated them!!
    The BAILOUT- saved Chrysler-and HUGE numbers of decent USA jobs
     
  4. Blackbelt

    Blackbelt Well-Known Member

    I am glad to see someone finally make this move. The only thing that bother me is this;

    "Pricing for the 2014 Ram 1500 starts at $24,200, plus $1,195 destination. The 3.0L V6 EcoDiesel with TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission is priced $2,850 greater than a similarly equipped Ram 1500 with a 5.7-liter HEMI V8 and only in higher trims."

    Why not offer a base model work truck with the diesel? I already know the answer to that question, but i still find the practice of only offering a diesel on larded up vehicles(Cruze for example) to be annoying. Jeep did the same thing when the offered the CRD in the liberty back in 2005. You could only get it in the "limited" model trim for almost $30K.
     
  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Blackbelt:

    Civics do a similar thing as well. :) 14 Toyota Highlander Hybrid? Just under $50K when the base 2.7L is less than $30K.

    In case you are interested, most Cruze TDs can be found for $4,000 off right now.

    Wayne
     
  6. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    :rolleyes: is all I have to say about that. Honda did the same with the latest Odyssey. You want the 19/28 rated 6-speed auto? That'll be 40k, thanks. At least they added it as an option on all trims this year in the mid-model update.
     
  7. Pavel4

    Pavel4 Well-Known Member

    It's about time domestic manufacturers decided to put a "small" diesel in a full size pickup - why did it take an extra generation for them to make the decision?

    Here's an alternative: find a nice 1973-77 Ford F250 Highboy which has the divorced T-case. Find a rusty Mercedes sedan that has the 5 cylinder (3 Liter) turbo diesel. Transplant the Mercedes + autobox into the Ford. Presto a nice 4WD, cheap to insure, functional (it doesn't matter if you scratch it) work truck that will get well over 30mpg highway. Total cost $10k?
     
  8. priusCpilot

    priusCpilot George

    Can't wait see the how the Nissan Frontier TD does with the Cummins.
     
  9. Indigo

    Indigo Witch with wry sense of humor

    Has Chrysler improved the quality to the point that there is even a chance that the truck will outlast a 4-year loan?
     
  10. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    Devil's advocate here-but
    Why chose this over a $10,000 cheaper 25mpg 3.6-probably the same actual FE
    Or a low trim Cummins with that monster motor and a zillion lb towing and a HUGE payload-
    for maybe the same $-granted no where near the same FE-

    The price and the price of diesel fuel is always the WHY NOT a small TD in a 1/2 ton
    and the very nice Cruze TD-same problem-hybrids and regular spark motors-
    at $4000 less maybe they make sense-but that probably means $23000 or so plus TTL

    Spark motors-turboed or not-are soooo good now-and diesel fuel-sooo pricy...
    and the Prius is soooooo good-why bother?
     
  11. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    All good points, Charlie. But some people are gonna want that diesel torque , the seemingly-endless thrust. In a car , I'm torn between a Prius and a diesel. For a truck , I'd pay the premium and get the diesel. The fuel price differential isn't as bad everywhere as it is by you. Yeah, $4000 seems like a lot. But I'd pay it.
     
  12. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    I'd prefer a diesel too, if the penalities weren't so high now. Charlie's got good points, though. Compared to a modern SI engine of comparable capability*, you'd have to drive your diesel a lot of miles to get your $4000 of present value back. If the fuel price differential gets much worse, you'd have to drive it forever.

    *"Comparable capability" means similar power that's not too peaky, not the same torque. Diesel torque-worshippers notwithstanding, torque alone doesn't get you anywhere.
     
  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

  14. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    THAT sounds like a fair price for a very useful truck.

    Sure, you might have to order it, but so what ? I ordered my Dodge D100 in 1976 and got EXACTLY the options I wanted and no more.
     
  15. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    Hmmm
    If you could actually get it for $27,000 8 ft bed- 3.0TD
    yeah that would be a heck of a truck
    Still the 3.6 spark motor-at least $4000 less-
    and TD always seen to be expensive to repair-sensitive to fuel

    BUT the TORQUE- yeah TD folks LOVE that torque-heck everyone does!
    $27,000 for a 8 ft bed TD- 30-34 mpg hy-maybe an honest 20-mpg city for regular drivers
    Yeah I can see the appeal at under $30,000
    I assumed they would be KING RANCH type loaded-all sorts of useless expensive crap
    but a base work truck-$27000 hmmmmm
    GM has problems-Ford too if Dodge actually sells these TD pickups for under $30,000
     
  16. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I'm sure they plan on selling a lot of the "King Ranch" trucks, too. But it's nice to know you can get this powertrain in a "work" truck.
     

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