Following Up on the Mazda’s SKYACTIV-D Continuing Release Pushback

Discussion in 'Mazda' started by xcel, Jan 9, 2014.

  1. wxman

    wxman Well-Known Member

    Hope this materializes.

    I still have an email from Mazda dated 11/16/2011 stating that Mazda WILL have a diesel vehicle in the U.S. in 15-18 months.

    They wouldn't identify which model(s).
     
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  2. SI_Prius

    SI_Prius Well-Known Member

    Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, under new EURO6d-TEMP (WLTP) testing that also includes RDE, Mazda 2.2 diesel will need SCR:
    https://www.newhilux.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=122&t=30269&p=424130

    That may be the reason why Mazda didn't bother to modify the engine just for a few cars they would sell in US. But now that they have SCR fited as standard to a bunch of 2.2 diesels maybe there is hope they will also sell it in US. But now maybe times have changed due to a bad press diesel got and there you have it, another reason not to sell diesel in US.

    Edit:
    Just saw that Mazda will sell CX-5 Diesel in US, the EPA figures are not that difernet to 2.5 petrol, how come?
    https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/mazda-cx-5-diesel-fuel-economy/#ftag=CAD590a51e
    https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Pow...r2=2018&make=Mazda&baseModel=CX-5&srchtyp=ymm
     
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2018
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  3. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Chevrolet offers their 1.6 turbodiesel in several vehicles. I think that highway fuel economy in a Cruze with 6MT might
    be excellent. But then , they also need all the emissions credits they can get in order to sell all the FSP's they want to.
    Mazda's pockets aren't as deep. Being a Jap-car snob, I'd rather buy a Mazda, but I can see why this may not happen.
     
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  4. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    That is underwhelming after such a long wait. An increase of zero mpg on the highway is very unusual.
     
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  5. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    I don't trust the EPA to give reasonable FE figures that most people are going to get in real-world driving. I think the diesel drivers will do much better than the gas even if the EPA says they're about even. But even if the EPA is right, the gas engine makes 185 hp and 184 ft-lbs of torque. The diesel makes 173hp and 310 ft-lb of torque! I know which one I'd rather drive. The Australians that can buy both engines rave about the power of the diesel over the gas and most would never go back to gas. The biggest complaint about the diesel was that it raised oil levels in the crankcase from raw diesel leaking past the rings. I don't know if Mazda has ever solved that problem.
     
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  6. alster

    alster Well-Known Member

    I have owned several diesel vehicles, the last a 2003 VW TDI Wagon 5 -speed manual transmission. I would never buy a new diesel now for the following reasons:

    A separate tank and system for UREA injection.
    Diesel fuel in most places cost more than regular gas and at times more than even premium gas.
    New diesels have more parts due to emission parts and systems in order to past muster with the E.P.A.
    The extra mpg, if any, would never be recouped by the extra cost for diesel fuel, the initial cost for the diesel engine over a gas engine,
    and all the maintenance cost involved as well.

    Mazda does now offer for the 2019 Model Year a new fuel efficient engine that operates on good ole regular gas which would be my choice over their diesel:
    here is the link:

    https://www.greencarreports.com/new...world-first-hcci-engine-for-efficiency-report
     
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  7. priusCpilot

    priusCpilot George

    Hmmm can't wait to see some real MPG numbers once it's out! I wounder if it's off my 10mpg?
     
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