Discussion in 'Kia' started by xcel, Dec 25, 2013.
Wow! 25k for so much car!
The deal is off after I received the following less than 5-minutes ago.
It seems strange to me that we here very little about any great #'s from the folks that own these hybrids from Korea. To me that is a indication of not very well! H
This might help?
Kia and CleanMPG unite for a Guinness record attempt
Yes I followed your 48 state world record,but have heard very little since. Nothing on this forum other than what you have achieved. Guess I had better check out a forum dedicated to these two autos. H
We have driven the Sonata Hybrid three different times including a Speed vs. FE graph since then as well. The graph below is of the 2013 with the new larger Li-Po pack, motor, and new drivability programming.
It must be good if you are replacing your pip for the Sonata. I see the deal fell through. Too bad as you sounded very pleased! What a let down! Oh well there are always more deals out there. Good luck,H
It will be a second car for my wife and son. They are sharing the Prius PHEV-11 now. While the deal fell through, there will be others in the future.
I would love to own a 15 Prius PHEV-20 myself or possibly a 15 Fit Hybrid (if that is going to be made available to us at a reasonable price as it is in Japan?). Those two are at least 4 to 9 months out yet.
The fit hybrid will be a one to watch for sure Wayne. H
New to the forum. Couple months ago I picked up my 2012 KOH. :woot: Loving the car and how it drives and how quite it is. Even though it is cold here in the Great White North, I've been averaging 35MPG, while riding on my Winters. Was able to pick the car up for $12105 CDN off sticker price($33K). Looking forward to summer and better gas mileage.:stickshift:
Now seeing some pretty good deals on 14 LXs ($21,500) with the Convenience Package ($1,500) and D&H ($800) or $23,800 going for $18,888 in Kenosha, Wisc. That is a pretty darn good deal for a sharp looking midsize.
So Wayne, any thoughts as to why these cars sit on dealer lots? The MSRP seems reasonable, the warranty is better than pretty much any other hybrid on the market, and you've shown that they have enormous potential. Certainly Kia doesn't need to make a boatload of them to bring their CAFE numbers in line. I'm thinking corporate needs to advertise these hybrid models more. I know here in the DC area, I can't recall the last time I have seen and/or heard a Kia or Hyundai hybrid ad on TV or radio.
The Sonata and Optima Hybrid is a hit or miss proposition. It still has a cold "jerk" transition between 1st and 2nd which would immediately turn people off. After that however, a large and comfortable car with a ton of features missing from its competitors awaits.
Kia dealerships near me are also hit and miss. As in some are updated and very comfortable whereas others are more akin to buying a car from a used car lot.
Not sure but here is a thought?
Sales are ok with 13 to 14K Optimas and 20K Sonata's reaching new drives each month but from an MSRP perspective, you are paying Camry/Accord like money for them. Camry/Accord $s no matter how good they are is not flying. Tack on $4 to $8k discount on the hood however and these things should reach your short list.
The depreciation hit for previous buyers is out the window but for a new buyer, to pick up a 14 Optima LX for slightly less than 14 Civic LX money is noteworthy.
A hybrid with a conventional transmission, and not a CVT? That's odd. In any case, especially with the discounts, I'd strongly consider a KOH or HSH if I was in the market for a new hybrid sedan. I tend to not think of depreciation when I purchase a vehicle as I usually keep my vehicles at least 10 years, if not longer. As a matter of fact, depreciation works in my favor as I can buy a relatively new vehicle for a lot less than new.
As far as a Kia/Hyundai hybrid commercial goes, I thought about it, and this is the last hybrid commercial from them that I remember seeing, and this commercial is a couple of years old at this point...
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