The 47 mpg Rated Honda Accord Hybrid Challenges

Discussion in 'Honda' started by xcel, Sep 18, 2013.

  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Airbalancer and Luke:

    My thoughts. While the Accord HEV is loaded, $30k to start just doesn't resonate when the base LX with an AT can be picked up for $21k any day of the week.

    GCRs posted it is short supply and maybe that is what they are spinning but 1,000 a month after a year and a half of production - incl. the PHEV - says supply is being constrained on purpose.

    I suspect the base Hybrid can be picked up for $26 to $27k somewhere but its sticker probably scares people off before even trying to deal on them.

    Still a nice car with an efficient drivetrain and this was the first I have seen in the wild IIRC.

    Wayne
     
  2. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    Hi Wayne,

    See now I misread and I thought it was the PHEV. Agree 'base' HEV is bit pricey and compared to competition no foldable rear seats (on the plus side better mpg).
    I also think they're bit late and lot more advertisement for Ford hybrids. Not sure how many people know about the Accord hybrid.

    Looking at truecar there's now some discount on MSRP (about 1K). I'd say though most should earn back the premium eventually but with gas prices lower hybrid sales are lagging overall.

    The RLX hybrid has been delayed to Q4 and no word on a TLX hybrid. I wonder if they really do have issues with battery supply. Toyota/Lexus is still not using much Li-Ion in their hybrids.

    Edmunds appraises my PHEV at $34K which seems more reasonable than $25K but not sure I really will get that. Will check with some other more high volume dealerships and otherwise will consider selling myself.
     
  3. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    My interpretation : Honda doesn't really want to sell us hybrids, Ford does.

    Tis a pity.

    The Accord Hybrid gives a LOT for that $30K. But when push comes to shove ( I love using archaic expressions) the Prius RULES.
     
  4. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    when I checked with TrueCar , there seemed to be about $2K off sticker. I hope they don't desperately try to unload them. But if they REALLY want to sell them , they could advertise and aggressively promote these excellent cars.
    But I forgot that Americans don't want excellent cars. They want sizzle, low price , "features" , and big cash-on-the-hood.
    How long before WalMart and Chrysler forge a partnership ?
     
  5. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Luke , are you saying that you want to sell your Accord PHEV ?

    Say it ain't so.
     
  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    I spoke with some Honda people at the LAAS Press Days this past week and when the 2016 refresh finally reaches the Hybrid, it will receive many of the yet to be detailed all-new PHEV and Clarity FCX drivetrain updates. Supposedly more efficiency than the already excellent 50/45 mpgUS city/highway rating.

    Regarding CRs, they are slowly working their way to mediocrity with the performance angle over the past two or three years. With Edmunds losing two Tesla drivetrains in a year and numerous online drivetrain, CRs steadfastly held onto their recommended Rating. And then a few weeks back they lowered their rating due to reliability. Within their bubble, they are losing track of the real world. This despite many good people there too.

    Wayne
     

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