2013 Passat TDI SEL Premium

Discussion in 'Start Your Journey Here' started by bw61374, Aug 6, 2013.

  1. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Super Moderator

    If it was me I'd call them back and mention they'll be getting a bunch of 2's instead of 10's if they don't cough up the right tire pronto.
    I have a compressor that plugs in my lighter socket so I can be sure tires are stone cold before I fill them up-if you drive a couple of miles to the gas station they aren't cold any more.
     
  2. bw61374

    bw61374 Active Member

    Hmm, you're very right. But too, it was only about 1/2 of a mile, plus, like I said it was early in the morning. Very cool and it drizzled last night so the road surface was wet. Hopefully, the tires weren't too warm. I never considered that. You are thorough.... You'vfe got the Passat with manual trans, eh? They say that's the one that Wayne did the 8000 mile record test in. We have the autotrans. We didn't want to be bothered with the manual. We're older, in our 70s. I just got the SMII hooked up. Now I have to figure out how to use that. I can assure you, all of these electronic intellegent equipment is challenging my ability, my patients and.. But anything is better than filling up everytime I make a 150m trip for $60! I saw the report on that Passat record and made up my mind... That was what I had to look into. The deal on the car came with 0% interest. I had to take advantage of that. As compared to ordering a 2014.

    Thanks for your reply and suggestion.

    Bruce
    Brookings, OR
     
  3. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Bruce , the car that frv (Gord) is driving is a Honda FR-V , what we might call a small minivan(but plenty big inside). It has the excellent Honda 2.2 diesel which they refuse to sell here.
    But Gord lives in the UK ; they get all kinds of cool cars we don't !

    Congrats on your new Passat !
     
  4. bw61374

    bw61374 Active Member

    I'll be. And I thought he was just down the road a piece. Thank you. Yeah, it seems like there are a lot of vehicles available over there that are not available here. And don't think they wouldn't be accepted here. Its probably because our manu don't want them here. Hey, Edwin, are you familiar with ScanGauge II? I'm getting mine set up in the car. Got it put in, found the OBDII plug, put the unit just under the dash display area, and am now I'm going to try and figure out what gauges to have showing. Do you happen to know of what gauges are ususally used? And if you know about the SGII can you give me any insight, suggestions, advise? I know there is a stream here on this site, so I should go over there and see what's reading, eh?

    I sent an email to the Manager of the VW dealership where I bought this Passat. Stated what I was upset about, namely that they wouldn't work with me about switching to the tires I wanted (Continental PureContact w/Eco Tech) as compared to the tires that are on it (Continental ContiProContact). Mentioned that I understood that I would be receiving a CUSTOMER SURVEY to fill out. Wondered if that survey was as important to them as those tires were to me.

    Its been suggested that I just drive em and when it comes time to change them out. Put what I want on then. What I'm hoping is, that they do something about eating these tires now. I'm due back there next week. Not at the dealers but near there to have the windows tinted. Plus I figured I would stop in and discuss any question that might have developed what with all of the electronic on-board this car. Whew!

    Be well,
    Bruce
     
  5. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Super Moderator

    First road trip of the year today. Went to Indianapolis suburb for a job interview this morning. At 62-63 MPH I got 62 on the way down, and 61 on the way back.
     
  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Nathan:

    Gotta love your Passat TDI when it provides that kind of result ;)

    Wayne
     
  7. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Super Moderator

    Can't match your results, but if you drive conservatively you can wring a lot out of these. Notice I already have 101 miles on it when I took this pic.
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  8. bw61374

    bw61374 Active Member

    Thunderstruck, how FANTASITC. Good on ya! Hey I see you have the SGII (ScanGauge II), I can see that you have RPM & MPG set up for gauges. What are the other two? I'm just installing mine and didn't know what gauges to select. Took it out today, and had to use another GPS unit to set the SPEED set up. You have the manual trans, correct? That's the one that Wayne drove for the RECORD. Wow... How do you feel? First road trip, its August?

    Yeah, I put my SCII right under the instrumentation console, right at the flex for the steering column. I can always move it, if I have to. Wow, 57.0mpg. Son-of-a-gun, Ive got the autotrans, but it was our choice. I had a little issue back in the 60s that affected my left leg/knee, compliments of our great uncle, SAM! I would have a challenge with a clutch.

    Again, good on ya. Now, to shame the writer... wish it was me! Shame on me, eh? Congratulations!

    Share you thoughts about "gauge selections for the SGII, please?

    Bruce
     
  9. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Super Moderator

    GPH and DPF. I'll find a link to DPF as it's an XGauge that has to be set up. I have a manual trans, that's my preference in all cars. Just have not had time until now for a good highway run (but this was less than 500 miles both ways.) And AC was on both ways, although I did have temp turned up so it would cycle compressor. Once I'm comfy I inch it up. Didn't want to get to a job interview all stinky. The car really exceeded my expectations, and it's only got 6K miles on it. Wait another 10 when it's more broken in.

    Edit: Here is link to DPF X Gauge. I used DPF instead of CTF when I named it.
    http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.php?p=3895485&postcount=1
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2013
  10. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Yes, Bruce , I have been using my SGII for almost two years. I don't remember the exact three-letter acronyms for the four gauges I normally display , so try to interpret them.
    Update: I just went out to the car and checked them , so what follows is correct.

    AVG ( average MPG)
    MPG ( instant MPG)
    LOD ( load )
    FWT ( coolant temperature, Fahrenheit)
    It can be very smart to monitor your coolant temperature if you ever plan to block your grille. Grille-blocking is a simple mod that many of us do to help the engine get up to efficient temps faster. If you don't ever plan to do so , you can still use this gauge to let you know when you can start to draw heat from the engine when you need to warm the cabin in cold weather.

    Thunderstruck has better and more specific advice as he has the exact same engine that you do.
     
  11. bw61374

    bw61374 Active Member

    Whoa, whoa, you guys. That's where you lose me, using those abreviations. Even on here, on this website, from time to time I run into abreviations that I don't know what they are. Evidentally I need to find me an abreviation dictionary, and quick. Can anyone direct me to such a document?

    Now isn't DPF, DIESEL PARTICULATE FILTER? What importance would that present on the SGII? So there is a difference between AVG (MPG) and MPG? What are the usual 4 gauges that TDI drivers have on their SGII? Right now, on the one in my car, I have; MPG - RPM, TFC - fWT. But since I didn't fill the fuel tank, it was filled for me by the dealer - went with the sale. What ever number comes up with the TFC is boogus. It will mean something after I go through the FILL procedure for the SGII.

    Right now though, I need to find out about ABREVIATIONS!

    Needless to say, but I will, thank you all for being so helpful, patient, and for sharing your knowledge and experience. There is so much to learn about this electronic genius that I just bought. Not only the electronics but about driving a diesel.

    Be well,
    Bruce
     
  12. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Super Moderator

    Yes, DPF is the diesel particulate filter. It's important not to interrupt during a regen, or it will start up again. You use more fuel than usual during a regen, so you don't want to have unnecessary regens due to it being interrupted. You'll see the temp go from the usual 300-400 up to 1100-1200 when it runs. It does fluctuate a lot depending on how hard you are mashing the pedal. Don't be alarmed if it hits 500 or more.
     
  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Bruce:

    You have probably turned the glossary for abbreviations off. There is a link just to the left of this post called Glossary.

    Hopefully that helps.

    Wayne
     
  14. bw61374

    bw61374 Active Member

    First fuel-up.... 458 miles, 10.296 = 44.48 MPG. Figures I had never thought possible. Needless to say, I am a very happy PASSAT TDI owner. Thank you Wayne for that record MPG drive and the news releases.

    I have increased the tire pressure up to 45 PSI in all tires. Ride is smooth, not loud, and no complaints from the passenger seat, (if you know what I mean). I'll keep this pressure till I re-fuel and move up anther 3 pounds.

    Now, another question on the same subject. I just drove 250 miles on business but the SGII MPG weren't as high as they were before re-fueling. Could fuel has something to do with the change? And the SGII, I'm not able to bring up the TANK and TANK TO EMPTY. I cycled through the TRIP choices but, any suggestions?

    Bruce
    Brookings, OR
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2013
  15. Harold

    Harold Well-Known Member

    Bruce, just click on the question mark behind the abbreviations and presto you now know what it means! H
     
  16. CPLTECH

    CPLTECH Well-Known Member

    BW61374,
    As for tires, I would leave them be. Back in 68 we bought a Chev wagon that came with white wall tires. To save $32, we had them switch to Goodyear blacks. Had nothing but trouble with balance plus wobble at low speed. More aggravation than was saved. I go with the previous advice to leave it as is then pick the brand/style when the time comes.
     
  17. bw61374

    bw61374 Active Member

    Yes, thank you for sharing that with me. When I initially got the car it had 32 PSI tire pressure. According to all of my reading I understood that by increasing the tire pressure, A) you would increase your FE, and increase tire usage, get better miles from them. That is what is prompting my actions. I've gone from 32 to 35 to 38 to 40 and now 45. Each change has not affected the steering, nor the ride nor changed the sound. And believe me, I have a passenger seat occupant that would notice it and say so. Like I mentioned in my posting, I'm going to leave the tires at this pressure (45) till I re-fuel. That, I figure, will give me A) more time to live with the pressure, the ride, the handling, and, B) see about FE.

    Bruce
     
  18. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Bruce:

    Just happy to hear of your success!

    Driving a modern day turbo diesel is a new experience for most and the savings are indeed real :)

    Wayne
     
  19. bw61374

    bw61374 Active Member

    Hey Wayne:

    Thanks for the post. For sure, driving this TDI with A/M trans is completely different. I have the DSG with 6 speed. There's a function, that if you tilt (tip) the sift lever over to the right it is in direct drive - or something. When I do this, the engine RPM drop about 30 to50 revs. Is this good for increasing your MPG? Those numbers below your name, the 48.3 MPGus, how do you got those there? I joined Fuelly, and am doing 44.8 MPG.

    Now, speaking of driving this TDI. Do you know of any literature that would describe how to effectively drive better? Me, I just try this, try that. You know, DAH!

    I'm running 50 PSI air in all tires now. Not experiencing any vibration at the steering wheel, road noise not that loud, ride is comfortable, and, and. I read somewhere that I should keep moving up till I get to 57 PSI. Figure I'll move up a 3 PSI each refuel till then. Next refuel, I'll move up another 3 PSI. Speaking of refueling. Sure takes a long time to go through a tank of fuel. As compared to my ole' gas hog. (2008 Saturn Outlook XR)

    Driving this car I am always thankful that I came across your report on the 8000 mile test drive you did in the 2013 VW PASSAT. Keep up the great work.

    Be well,
    Bruce
    Brookings, OR
     
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2013
  20. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Hi Bruce ,
    Check this out. At first , it may seem like a review of a Toyota , but it is PACKED with info about EPA test procedures , then basic and advanced driving techniques. Read it , then read it again , then PRACTICE , then keep on practicing. Going higher than 50psi won't help much if you don't take advantage of your decreased rolling resistance to extend a glide.

    http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1510
     

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