Discussion in 'BEV or Battery Electric Vehicle' started by JohnM, Jun 21, 2013.
Just $18,000 in CA with the $10,000 TC- is that a federal credit.
This car looks like a winner- better than leaf- 400 lb ft torque- 7.5 0-60 little pocket rocket
and affordable. $10,000-less than a Volt
Not only a good deal but a fun car!
"400 lb.-ft. of torque"
Holy cow that must be a hoot.
Even though CR doesn't car for the gas version, I'm seeing a lot of more of these, and I think in the mini-car class, these make a lot more sense than some of the competitors, for the right buyer- which is admittedly a limited pool.
Yes, but don't forget the one-speed transmission. It won't have as much torque at the wheels as you'd expect in low gear from a conventional car with an engine providing 400 lb-ft. (If it did, there wouldn't be enough traction to harness it.)
I'm pretty sure that the gearing is under 1:1, so if anything it has more than 400ft/lbs at the wheels.
The gas Spark has 83ft/lbs of torque. The Spark EV is probably awesome to drive. I just hope it has decent rear legroom.
The 7.5 0-60 means it gets plenty of torque-
and torque curve-hardly curves at all-not like an ICE-
though the turbo ICE probably pretty flat in some ranges also
No shifting means quicker acceleration also
Yeah-this would be a fun car
Isn't the VOLT reasonably quick 0-60-much quicker than a Leaf or PRIUS?
Now our 2006 Prius feels pretty zippy to me in the 20-50 range-it doesn't feel like a slow car
We had a MT Chevette-1980-so we KNOW slow cars.
You think you know slow cars? Have you ever driven a 1980 VW diesel rabbit? 48HP with a 4 speed manual tranny?
Now THAT'S a slow car!!! That Chevette had a blistering 70 HP!!! They both weighed around 2000#. The Chevette would have smoked my bunny!
But the lack of power made for a great winter car. I had a set of studded winter tires on that rabbit and it would go ANYWHERE in the snow.
You got me beat-no question the VW diesel-and the little pickup- were STUNNINGLY slow-even in an era with SLOW cars-no turbo-just diesel
They might have been the slowest of the era
maybe 22-25 seconds to 60 mph.
heck wouldn't be surprised if their 0-60 WAS their 1/4 mile time!!
Yes, obviously so, but still a lot less at the wheels than a conventional car with a conventional transmission in its lowest gear and 400 ft-lb from the engine.
The '77 VW Rabbit diesel I tested made 0-60 in 23.0 seconds with three people aboard, so it might've managed close to 20 seconds with only a driver. Some gasoline cars of the mid-70s weren't much faster. The same Rabbit scored 49 mpg at 60 mph steady-state. Corresponding numbers for the gasoline '77 Rabbit were 13.5 seconds and 31 mpg.
VW used the same 48 hp diesel engine in the late-70s Dasher (aka Passat) which was heavier, thus even slower.
I could almost go for one of these.
My buddy had one of the first Rabbits sold in this area. That 0-60 time felt pretty fast to me.
Yes, gasoline Rabbits were quicker than most other small "economy" cars of that era, especially after VW went to fuel injection in '77 (well before Japanese competitors did). That 13.5 second 0-60 I mentioned might've been around 12 with only a driver (vs. 450 pounds) aboard, or even less for people who used more abusive launch techniques.
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