'13 C-Max Energi

Discussion in 'Ford Hybrids' started by GaryG, May 5, 2013.

  1. GaryG

    GaryG Well-Known Member

    Got my $775 check from Ford today for overestimating the EPA rating on my 2013 C-Max Energi. The revised EPA went from 42mpg to 38mpg, and MPGe went from 100 to 88mpge. I'm at 408mpg and 123MPGe lifetime today with 6,100 miles, so thanks for the check Ford.

    I put $600 of it down and ordered one to replace my Sons '12 Focus SEL. I ordered him a black with stone interior Energi, with the 302A package like he wanted.

    Gary
     
  2. CarlD

    CarlD Well-Known Member

    Hi Gary,

    Wondering if the Energi tracks how much energy the A/C has consumed? The '10-12 FEH nav units show the instantaneous A/C power consumption but not total. Does the A/C current xgauge for the '10-12 FEH work on your Energi?
     
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  3. GaryG

    GaryG Well-Known Member

    Hi Carl

    There is a OEM HVAC gauge that gives instant KW's being used by the A/C and I monitored it for awhile. I pretty much know not to cool a heat soaked cabin unless I don't have time to precondition while plugged in. The A/C compressor is three phase and has its own converter and runs directly off the HV battery. I don't have that programing for the X-Gauge, but if you have any more programming, me and the guys on the Energi owner's forum would love to get them.

    Gary
     
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    brick Answers to "that guy."

    I'm available for adoption.
     
  5. GaryG

    GaryG Well-Known Member

    It's rare to have two sons that never got into trouble, bring home straight A's and does what you ask him. My oldest son graduated from MIT with a 4.7 GPA, and became a self made millionaire by 26. He helped his older sister to go back to college, and she has now excepted a great paying nursing job. I had a little trouble getting her back on the right track from a bad marriage, but with the help of my oldest son, things look good for her. He also helps with his younger brother who I'm getting the car for. He graduates from UCF this year and wants to become a film director. He doesn't work and try to go to school at the same time, so we take care of him including his gas. I need the $4,007 tax credit, and he needs to stop burning gas.

    My son will take over the car payments when he finishes college and gets a good paying job. It's my strategy to help get him on his feet like we did with his older brother. I turn 60 this month, and I'm sure he will help me and his mother when the time comes.

    Gary
     
  6. GaryG

    GaryG Well-Known Member

    It's time to stop burning gas, and buy electric. Lets make the power companies change as well.

    Gary
     
  7. CarlD

    CarlD Well-Known Member

    A local dealer has offered $8k off of the sticker on a 2014 Fusion Energi and $4k trade for my FEH. The Energi is still new so I should be able to get the tax credit. Don't know how I can resist even though the color and options aren't what I would choose if I was ordering it new.
     
  8. GaryG

    GaryG Well-Known Member

    Many FEH owners are buying the Energi and love it. I got mine just the way I would have ordered it, and love it.

    Gary
     
  9. VRBeauty

    VRBeauty New Member

    Hi! I see I'm late to the game, but I hope someone will be willing to hop back on this somewhat moribund thread to answer a few questions about the c-max energi. It looks like quite a few 2013's are coming off lease now, and I'm considering buying one. So - on to my questions.

    I test-drove an 2013 c-max energi that had a total mileage of about 20,000 miles. I was able to find the "lifetime mileage" display, and it indicated about 8,500 EV miles. Does that mean the car was driven in EV-only mode for 8,500 miles, or does that include EV miles in hybrid mode. Related to that - would it be safe to say that the IC engine therefore has only Is it safe to say that the IC engine only has 11,500 miles on it?

    Also, I've read through your discussions here, and noted that you can't use the car in EV-only mode if the battery temps are too high. I live in an area where daytime highs of 95-105 aren't uncommon during the summer months. Should I figure that I wouldn't be able to drive in EV mode during those periods? (That's not all day, of course, but I am most likely to be driving in the hotter parts of the day.)

    And finally, the car I test drove has the pano sunroof. As much as I love the idea of a sunroof it's kind of unnecessary for my situation since I wouldn't be able to enjoy it much (as the driver) and would rarely have second-row passengers. Does the sunroof make for a much hotter interior?

    I've enjoyed reading all your comments on this thread, and learned a lot from them. Thanks for considering my questions and - hopefully - responding!
     
  10. VRBeauty

    VRBeauty New Member

    One more question - the "lifetime" display on the car I was discussing above also indicated only 2 and a fraction regen miles. I'm having trouble understanding why the regenerative braking contribution would be so low, when my test drives in two different c-max energis seem to indicate that the regenerative braking function in these cars is very effective.
     
  11. dr61

    dr61 Well-Known Member

    FYI my 2013 now has 20,100 mi and shows 9000 EV miles and 1643 regen miles. I think EV miles includes the regen miles and ICE miles is therefore 11,100 miles.

    We drive about 95%+ in EV mode when we are driving locally (rarely have a round trip longer than 25 mi). Normally we get 16 to 30 miles range on the battery, depending on external temperature, driving style, and especially settings on climate system. We make at least monthly trips of 400 miles RT using the ICE.

    In my area temperatures in summer get in the 110-115F range max in summer, with many days above 100. However lows are usually in the 70's during summer. Only twice since we have had the car has the ICE started because of battery temp exceeding 112F. Those times the car was parked in the hot sun all afternoon. We have a Scangauge with battery temp displayed; it is important to run the AC in hot weather as it is used to cool the battery.
     
  12. GaryG

    GaryG Well-Known Member

    Well, I've had my '13 Energi for 12,813.1 miles now and according to my lifetime gauges, I'm at 823.7mpg and 161.0 MPGe. Still on my dealer gas tank gas with 3/8 of a tank left. I burned the factory gas when I picked up my Energi in Opopka FL and drove it to my sales dealer in Lake Park FL where they topped the tank off again for closing the deal. This gave me a total of about 17 gallons of free gas from the factory and the dealer. I had to burn 15 gallons on the highway so all the gas wouldn't get too old. I'm now left with about 2 gallons of old gas in the tank. I've never bought any gas since delivery.

    Hypermiling has extended my EV mileage up to 39.6 miles on one charge. This has increased my EV range from 19 miles as rated by the EPA. This is the right size HV battery for how I drive. A bigger battery would take longer to charge and a bigger battery cooling system. The battery takes a little over 2 hours to fully charge on level 2 chargers, so this gives me time to charge more than once during the day. More and more, Level 2 free chargers are popping up for convenience of driving pure EV. I have about 400 gas engine miles out of the total of 12,813.1 miles to date. This means I have about 12,413 EV miles on my Energi so far.

    Gary
     
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  13. BillLin

    BillLin MASS: 2018 Bolt EV and 2017 Prime

    Very nice, Gary! I'm envious.

    Best regards,
    Bill
     
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  14. ksstathead

    ksstathead Moderator

    Awesome, and a top alternative to replace my '10 Prius is the '17 PIP is not up to the mark.
     
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  15. pumafeet10

    pumafeet10 Well-Known Member

    any tips on how you are getting that kind of ev range? I know florida is flat so that helps but wow would love some insight on any techniques you use
     
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