Toyota Motivated to Match 2012 Prius Plug-In Sales; Defends Discounting

Discussion in 'In the News' started by xcel, Mar 4, 2013.

  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Well the saga is not over but it is getting close...

    I paid it off and it is still not registered. The CA DMV has gone back and forth 4 times if it needs a SMOG check or not. Within this back and forth, without a registration within 20-days (the car was in CA well within the time frame and the DMV charged Marian $306 for "something that we do not know about???), there is a $100 fine per day past 20-days. NY cannot issue the paperwork to CA because they will not accept it.

    I called up Toyota, had the title changed back to IL so I will pay IL taxes and save 1% but forego the $1,500 rebate that CA offers.

    What a PIA. If CA cannot handle a simple registration while they continue to pile on fees even after Marian made the DMV appointment, went to their office, they checked and said you do not need one, 2 different DMV reps said you do not need it, 2 said that you do I had to move its registration back to IL to make it legal to drive.

  2. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Wayne, that really "inhales" as we say around my home.

  3. DaveJ

    DaveJ Well-Known Member

    How much is a smog check?
  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Dave:

    Probably less than $50 and useless on a Prius.

    What the problem is a $100 per day penalty that is building beyond the 20-days even though we have jumped through all the hoops that the California DMV wanted and had all of this completed within the 20-days. This included making an appointment with the CA DMV with 7-day lead time, going to the DMV on the date so a DMV rep could look at the car and verify the VIN and stating that a SMOG check was not needed. When I turned this all over to the NY dealer, they submitted and the CA DMV rejected it saying it needs a SMOG check.

    The fees are up to $1,400 as of today and no way in hell am I going to pay CA for their screw up when their SMOG check page explicitly states that this check is not needed for hybrid vehicles. let alone PHEVs, electrics, motorcycles and a number of other vehicle types.

    Adding insult to injury, the CA DMV demanded Marian pay them $306 to begin registration and we already paid that to the NY dealer including the CA state taxes.

    I had Toyota change the title to my home address here in IL when I paid it off and the NY dealership will release it all to IL instead.

    The entire ordeal with the CA DMV really pisses me off. While CA state taxes were .5% higher, I will miss out on the $1,500 tax rebate in the state and I will still have to go though the $306 fees when I register it in CA next year.

  5. DaveJ

    DaveJ Well-Known Member

    What a bunch of Hooie!!!

    I feel you still got a great deal even without the Ca. $1500.

    Two things kept me from doing the same as you did.
    One was I did not like the view out the back of the Prius.
    The biggest is if I got it home to Missouri, and Toyota decided not to expand plug-ins into Missouri for a few years and I had a problem, local dealers "might" tell me to go to a state that sells them, they don't have the tools, and then I would have a problem. With your car going to Ca., you did not have this obstacle to overcome.

    I probably could have overcome the back view.
  6. priusCpilot

    priusCpilot George

    This is how the CA POS DMV works. I do everything I can to get back at them in different ways lol!
  7. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    My Fit has Honda's Maintenance Minder system which calculates when an oil change is needed. It uses number of starts, trip length, rpm and other things to figure when it's due. I got the service records when I bought it used, and it's had nearly 10,000 mile changes it's whole life. It's due again now, again at 10,000.
  8. priusCpilot

    priusCpilot George

    Andrew if you really want to confirm how the oil really is doing, it would be worth it to send in a sample to Blackstone laps.
  9. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I also go by my Honda's Maintenance Minder. For my driving the oil is good for about 8 months and 8000 miles.

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