2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash Test

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG]Aced as in a perfect score across the board!

    [fflash=right]http://www.youtube.com/v/gOOMR-fTBWg?version=3[/fflash]Wayne Gerdes - CleanMPG - Dec. 20, 2012

    2013 Honda Accord during the new IIHS Small Overlap Crash Test – This one separates the boys from their mama’s and the Accord nailed it!

    First the car we drove just two short weeks ago back in LA happened to be available for the 2013 Honda Accord with the 6-speed stick review. It did everything right except for being a Sport variant that left a few mpg’s on the table vs. the slightly less expensive LX trim.

    The non-calibrated 64.5 mpg result places it right there amongst the leaders including the 2011 Hyundai Sonata with the stick at an actual 66.x mpgUS result achieved just over 1,000 miles (the stick is no longer available however :() and the 2013 Nissan Altima with a non-calibrated 64.6 mpg result over a 115 mile RT drive loop at its short lead last summer.

    The good: It has a nice ride, really good handling, great stick action, and decent visibility, good performance (both straight line and FE wise) and it was comfortable.

    The bad: Like every midsize, the Accord has a low starting price but gets pricey real quick with just a few ticks off the trim or option list.

    And its safety? Absolutely beyond reproach with a perfect “best-in-class” IIHS small overlap crash test and overall result that none of its competitors can match.

    The all-new 2013 Honda Accord Sedan was only one of two midsize sedans to earn an overall GOOD rating in the new Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) small overlap frontal crash test. Under the more stringent testing guidelines, the new small overlap frontal crash test is designed to replicate what happens when only a small portion of the front corner of a car collides with another vehicle or an object such as a tree or utility pole. Additionally, both the 2013 Accord Sedan and Coupe are among the first vehicles in the industry to earn the highest possible safety rating of TOP SAFETY PICK+ from the IIHS.

    As a manufacturer, Honda leads the industry with three TOP SAFETY PICK+ vehicles which include the 2013 Accord Sedan and Coupe and 2013 Acura TL.

    Beginning with the 2013 Honda Accord, Honda is applying the second generation of Honda's Advanced Compatibility Engineering (ACE II) body structure to its models. This reinforced front frame structure provides further enhanced frontal crash energy management through a wider range of offset and oblique crashes. The result of these efforts provides the capability for the Accord Sedan to achieve a top mark of GOOD in the new IIHS small overlap frontal testing.

    The new IIHS test is more challenging, as it requires additional vehicle cabin structure and front structure outboard of the main frame rails. By re-engineering of the vehicle structure, Honda has added enhancements that minimize the possible adverse effects on handling and ride comfort, fuel efficiency and overall body vibration, while increasing the safety performance of the vehicle for its passengers.

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    If some believe Honda is not putting forth it’s A-Game, they probably do not understand what the above results mean.​

    Standard safety equipment on all Honda and Acura models include Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) with traction control; an Anti-lock Braking System (ABS); side curtain airbags (some vehicles equipped with a rollover sensor as well); dual-stage, multiple-threshold front airbags; and a driver's side airbag.

    Now if we can only convince them to add rear passenger side airbags, their vehicles would prove to be even safer!

    2013 Honda Accord Sport

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    It may not be quite as flashy or as fuel efficient as some of its segment competitors but it sure is safe.​

    All told, I cannot wait to see the results of the newer new 2013 Civic on the same IIHS small overlap crash test.
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2012
  2. Blackbelt

    Blackbelt Well-Known Member

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    The Suzuki Kizashi was the other car that earned the good rating in that test.
     
  3. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    Hi Blackbelt:

    The Suzuki did not receive an across the board Good rating as it fell away from the Accord with its roof crush strength test results.

    Wayne
     
  4. brick

    brick Answers to "that guy."

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    It's a funny thing. Just a year ago I wouldn't have even bothered visiting a Honda dealership if I were looking for a new midsize sedan. Today I think it would be my first stop.
     
  5. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    Mid-size ? Try full-size. It's a giant boat of a car. And yes, with today's tech boat is more efficient than yesterday's boat.

    But it's still a boat.
     
  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    Hi Edwin:

    The all-new 2013 is smaller than the 8th generation (it lost 3 cu. ft. of interior volume and 1 cu. ft. of cargo volume) and is again EPA size rated as a midsize.

    Saying that. only the 12/13 Passat had more room in the back!

    2013 Honda Accord Review

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    The Accord provided very comfortable front and rear seat ergonomics and seating position.

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    2013 VW Passat TDI by comparison. Notice the short rear seat bottoms in the Passat?

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    2012 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid for comparison. Even though it has the leg/knee room, notice the low seat bottoms in the back leading to lack of thigh support.

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    2013 Chevrolet Malibu. This was an ergonomic nightmare for those in the rear.​

    The Accord is more comfortable in the rear because of its more laid back and stretched out seating position. A car that really does fit better than some of its competitors. The 2013 Altima was also large from the front to rear but I did not have the chance to snap a pic of the same at the short lead this past summer :(

    Wayne
     
  7. Blackbelt

    Blackbelt Well-Known Member

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    It received a rating of TSP+, the same as the Accord.
    The difference between the 2 in the roof test was 15,907# for the Accord Vs 13.023 for the Kizashi.

    Big difference between the 2 currently is you can buy a Kizashi for $6,000-$8,000 less than an Accord.
    That's pretty important and a pretty big difference.:)
     
  8. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    But can you stiill buy the Kizashi ?
     
  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    Hi Edwin:

    If there are any left, you would not want to.

    Wayne
     
  10. Blackbelt

    Blackbelt Well-Known Member

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    Really Wayne? Why not?
    BTW, there are some left.
     
  11. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    Hi Blackbelt:

    Ever have drive your 6 year old car hundreds of miles to have it fixed?

    Wayne
     
  12. Blackbelt

    Blackbelt Well-Known Member

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    No, and i don't have to do that with my Suzuki either. The dealer that I bought mine from signed an agreement to continue as a servicing facility for Suzuki. Another dealer, about 45 minutes from me, has done the same.
    The dealer that i got mine from will even pick my car up at my home for service if i ask them to. Obviously, not every area of the country has the number of Suzuki dealers that we have here in Western PA. However, if someone does have these dealers close by who are going to honor all warranty work, then the Kizashi becomes a very viable and attractive option. IMO, MUCH more attractive than a first year Accord. Especially with the $$ difference. But, as always, the best option is to drive and price both(plus other options), then decide what works best for YOU. To me, having an AWD system that can be switched off is a VERY big benefit, one that Honda doesn't seem to want to offer.
     
  13. bluejoey

    bluejoey no cars > fewer cars > heavier cars

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    I don't think much of the IIHS; they're essentially a lobbying arm of the SUV industry. A shortened version of 99% of their crash test results is that when larger and smaller vehicles meet in fatal collisions, the people in the larger vehicles (which are usually SUVs) are less likely to die (which means the people in the smaller ones are more likely to die). The conclusion reached by the IIHS, naturally, isn't that car manufacturers should design smaller cars as a result, but that everyone should drive larger ones.

    In that respect, they fall on the same side of the sustainability spectrum as the NRA, which urges more guns as the solution to gun violence. Personally, I'd rather have smaller vehicles (which are also far less likely to kill people with no protection, such as pedestrians, cyclists, and children) and fewer guns, but there's far more money in appealing to fear than to reason, and we've become a very selfish and gullible society as a result.

    And before anyone asks, no, we don't plan on getting a giant minivan or SUV as soon as we have children. Rather, we're probably going to go with a compact simply because they'll be better able to fit multiple car seats. If we have 4 kids, we might go with a Mazda 5 or equivalent, since that's sadly the smallest vehicle in the US that can seat 6 passengers while getting somewhat decent mileage.
     
  14. herm

    herm Well-Known Member

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    You dont love your kids?.. you will by the time you have them..
     
  15. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    Hi Bluejoey:

    Herm is speaking out of tune again :rolleyes:

    If you look back at Pickups and SUVs from a decade ago, they were some of the worst scoring vehicles on the road.

    Today, the small and midsize cars are pulling 5-stars on the NHTSA which is the toughest overall crash test ratings. This new IIHS small overlap test however is one that we should all pay attention to. You will see swift changes to new vehicles in 2013 so they will never have to suffer the fate that Toyota did with this single test just two short weeks ago. You can bet within a month or two, Toyota will have beefed up that A-pillar across their entire model lineup so it will not buckle and be back on the TSP+ list in short order.

    Wayne
     
  16. bluejoey

    bluejoey no cars > fewer cars > heavier cars

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    By this argument, my kids (or yours, or anyone else's) would never leave the house, as that way they'd almost be guaranteed never to be in a car collision!

    There's a balance that's needed, and you and everyone else here knows that. For us, that balance will likely be found in the most fuel efficient cars we can find that fit our number of kids and budget. I do understand getting the newest and strongest vehicles to protect our loved ones; it's only natural. And I completely get that we can't always prevent collisions, so we need to think about protection too. These are just my thoughts. I know I wouldn't put my kids in a large SUV even if it did score the best in tests and ratings, simply because I'd disagree with it on too many other levels. For one thing, we have a two car garage that barely fits our subcompact and midsizer as it is...
     
  17. Blackbelt

    Blackbelt Well-Known Member

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    Yep, the current mindset is Kids=SUV.
    Bull.
    Our family car when my son was born in 1983 was a 1983 VW Rabbit GTi. When son #2 came along, i kept the bunny for myself to commute in, and got a Subaru 4 door sedan for the family car. Both vehicles did their jobs well and i never felt the need for anything larger. I will admit when they got a little older i picked up a used minivan, but it was a short wheelbase Chrysler with a 4 cylinder and a stick shift. Got almost as good mileage as that Subaru did.
     
  18. herm

    herm Well-Known Member

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    Still, find a small car with good crash ratings compared to an SUV. Bigger often wins
     
  19. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    My two kids travelled in my 89 Civic hatch and an 87 Nova sedan. I never felt the need for anything larger.
     
  20. Blackbelt

    Blackbelt Well-Known Member

    Re: 2013 Honda Accord Is the Only Affordable Midsize That Aced the Latest IIHS Crash

    Exactly. My Subaru sedan was about the size of a Corolla and was fine for the 4 of us. The VW had plenty of space in the hatchback cargo hold for stroller and diaper bag and stuff. Never felt the need or had any desire for anything larger. The only reason i bought the minivan was because it was a bargain($800). Now, it seems that as soon as a couple have a child, its SUV time.
    Although minivans are not the most economical vehicles, they are much better than SUV's. But it seems the minivan stigma among the younger people is strong. My niece just had her third child and could really make use of a minivan, but both her and her hubby insist that they HAVE to get a 3 row SUV and no way will they EVER own a minivan. The last thing they can afford right now is a 12MPG FSP SUV, but they are going to get one anyway.:(
     

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