2013 Toyota Avalon Preview - Golden Gate in San Francisco

Discussion in 'Website news & discussions' started by xcel, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. ncee

    ncee Well-Known Member

    Got to get back to work. A client is looking for 10,000 pens (yeah a car payment if I close the deal:))

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  2. ncee

    ncee Well-Known Member

    There's a ton of photo's online now of the SEMA Avalon's. Pretty cool. Might appeal to younger folks (as options to put on the Avalon after they purchase it.)

    Hell look what folks did / do to the LS Lexus. This isn't a far stretch to think they'll do the same to the avalon. It will be a hell of a lot less.

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  3. ncee

    ncee Well-Known Member

    Good morning. Not sure when your Avalon experience is done, but I hope and I'm hopeful, you enjoyed yourself.

    One last question, for now:), Will there be any one saying "Wow, I didn't expect that", "Now that is cool" "I didn't see that coming" or anything like that?

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  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Skip:

    Two items and you have seen both. Look at the aFCD pics again and look even closer at the interior pic where the HVAC/Radio controls are located.

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  5. ncee

    ncee Well-Known Member

    Good morning.

    As in no or not many buttons? As long as they are easier to the touch then the Nav / radio unit in my Limited, this could be cool.

    I will say, the clock I saw in one picture was a nice touch. I was thinking they should have a nice classy one like in the Lexus models, but this looks pretty nice.

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  6. ncee

    ncee Well-Known Member

    Oh, you mean the 3 pic's you posted in the beginning don't you.

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  7. ncee

    ncee Well-Known Member

    Ok, so are the SEMA models likely to hit the market place in your opinion?

    While cool, they don't appeal to me, but I'm not in that younger market they are trying to attract. I'm not old, but just not in my 20's anymore.

    So I believe you mention in an earlier post,I should check back tomorrow as you'll be able to post A LOT more information, right?

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  8. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Skip:

    After looking at the Avalon SEMA releases, I do not think I am going to post anything from them. The cars were "Dubbed", look like trash and no new information was added that I can post here.

    2013 Toyota Avalon for SEMA

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    October 30th you will be scouring the net for your next car and I will do what I can to have something up about it as well. Unfortunately or not, I am scheduled to be in New Mexico for the 2013 Jetta Hybrid Short Lead and may be backed up a few days.

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  9. ncee

    ncee Well-Known Member

    November 30th:( I thought it was sooner then that. Man I'm going to go crazy until then. I guess I'll keep my eyes and ears open. Maybe they will be displaying them somewhere near here or near one of my trips.

    Enjoy New Mexico.

    I thought I traveled, you got me beat, although damn near all my travels start and end up from a car.

    "Dubbed" as in, done up for the younger crowd and don't do the real car justice?


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  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Skip:

    Sorry about that. Its October 30th. Been in the air so much this month I do not even know what month it is ;)

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  11. ncee

    ncee Well-Known Member

    :) Cool so just a few more days until I can take a deep breath and decided if all this research, prodding of folks like you, asking around and wondering was all worth it.

    While the SEMA cars might work for those YOUNGER folks Toyota is after, it's not for me. While it seems like it might cool, I'm sure it would be louder, stiffer, a harsher ride. All things I don't buy an Avalon for.

    So all and all, your time spent with the Avalon was a pleasant, nice experience, surprised last few days?

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  12. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Skip:

    I think you will be surprised but I cannot say more than this as it would jeopardize any chance of being invited on a Toyota Short or Long Lead ever again.

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  13. ncee

    ncee Well-Known Member

    I understand.

    I beta test software and understand the "Say Nothing" rules:)

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    ncee Well-Known Member

  15. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Skip:

    The all-new 2013 Toyota Avalon Specs, Pricing and Options are posted as linked. I cold not get them up yesterday as the hotel I was at would not allow me access to CleanMPG.com for some reason???

    I posted this while stuck in ABQ waiting for a flight to Denver and then to Milwuakee...

    R&H: Toyota kept the soft ride with a bit better steering albet it is still a touch soft and vauge. Just a customers of this car would like more than likley.

    Fuel Economy? After doing the calcs by draing the pack to 2 bars from 6 bars (3/4) after 1.4 miles of EV, she still pulled at least 75 + mpg around town. Out on the highway, 56 +. These are not calibrated results.

    Touch controls work absolute excellent. Even fan slider worked great. Softer materials and a much better interior design than previous Avalon. Exterior is way better...

    Slightly less rooom in the rear due to non-cutout rear seatbacks.

    More later, we're boarding!

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  16. ncee

    ncee Well-Known Member

    Thank you, and enjoy your time overseas. I just got back from a few days on the road myself.

    Well now it's a waiting game. Can't wait to see one up close, drive one up close, and then decided which model and the color combo I'll go with.

    I'm thinking the sable with tan interior, until I see them up close.

    The new red color sure looks nice. Boy this isn't going to be easy.

    Also not sure if the only upgrade option is worth $1750.00? I'm guessing, after spending this much, what in hell is another $1750.00:)

    From what I've been able to find out there for articles on test drives, it sure sounds like a winner.

    Boy it would be nice to know what the 2011 Interior Noise was rated at, and what the 2013 's numbers are?

    I believe Road and Track has those numbers when they do a complete test drive.

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  17. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Skip:

    A dB meter will not matter. You can have a conversation with a passenger w/out raising your voice. It is quiet ;)

    I posted a lot more in the 2013 Avalon Hybrid specification and pricing thread for you as well.

    Do not purchase the non-hybrid. You will be sorry if you do. It is not nearly as quiet when the hybrids engine is shut down and the fuel economy stinks by comparison. If 8.2 seconds to 60 is not fast enough, you should not be driving your current Avalon as it is may be slower than the 2.5L equipped hybrid is today.

    I hope that helps?

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  18. ncee

    ncee Well-Known Member

    Hi. It all helps, thank you. Now it's a matter of the best price I can get for the Hybrid fully loaded.

    Do I want the $1750.00 upgrade … yes, but do I need it?

    I will say, you sure do seem hyped on the Hybrid:)

    The payback (if that was an issue), is on the high side for me, as I do at least 80% highway driving. Now as for it being quieter, that I like.

    I will say, it's getting harder NOT to be excited, waiting to be able to drive one and test it out. My local dealers is due in around the 12th - 15th, and I believe it is a fully loaded Hybrid. If that is true that would be perfect.

    Smaller trunk on hybrid, doesn't seem like a big deal.

    So how does the tan interior look, and in which color exteriors did they have it?

    Your thoughts on any of the color combinations you saw?

    And you full report is where?

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  19. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Skip:

    The $1,750 Safety Option package equipment works well (I will have more on the Adaptive CC when I get a chance to write it up and it works far better than the system in the third gen Prius) but that is a lot of $'s to spend for systems you will hardly ever employ. Spend the extra $'s on the Hybrid drivetrain because even on a mostly interstate drive its payback will occur in less than two years for you. In addition, the hybrid resale will be higher so you will recover all of that and more the instant you drive it off the lot.

    Regarding colors, I am not a fan of tan/ivory interiors as they get to dirty to quickly no matter how hard you try and keep them clean. I liked the black one though :)

    I do not have a full Preview up yet, just the blogging with you and the spec pages with impressions posted below it.

    If you need anything else, feel free to ask.

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  20. ncee

    ncee Well-Known Member


    Ok. When might you have a full write-up available?

    - Ride… Quiet … Good:)
    - Ride … Smooth, smoother or about the same?
    - Comfort … Same, better or depends on the person?
    - I'll still consider Tan interior as it's mostly me, or when there are others they are adults. To me, Tan just looks a bit fancier:)
    - Second choice might be the Red with Grey?

    My Touring Edition was Black / Black, and while it was nice, just not want I'd like again.

    My current Limited is Crimson with Tan interior.

    Speaking of interior, most seem to like the new leather touches and all, your thoughts?

    - The buttons and switches - as nice and easy as they appear to be?

    - Any other nice pictures of the interior(s) (back seat and controls?)
    - Ok, spill the beans on the Nav. Is it DVD or not, and is it good, better or still only ok?

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