CleanMPG Reviews the 2013 Mazda CX-5

Discussion in 'Reviews' started by xcel, May 11, 2012.

  1. shadescape

    shadescape Banned

    Wayne- enjoyed reading this
    I stopped in at the Ford Dealership today and talked with the salesman who sold me my 2 Escapes- we visited- I wanted him to ride with me as I wanted him to see this UG and the MPG I get

    Told him "call me when you get in an AWD 2013 Mazda CX-5"
     
  2. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Shadescape:
    Excellent call! While the new 2013 Escape is a wonderful and well-built daily driver, it does not have nearly the capability of the CX-5. Especially with that "to die for" slick shifting 6-speed stick ;)

    I have never been so excited for an automobile manufacturer. I am thankful for the Hyundai Accent, Elantra and Sonata Hybrid, the Ford Fusion Hybrid and EcoBoost program in the LD F-Series and the Toyota Prius family but to see a Zoom-Zoom company arrive on the scene with a technology that still provides the patented fun to drive feel at an affordable price plus fuel economy capability that the CX-5 does has really changed my perspective. While struggling, Mazda has one thing that the rest do not. Fun to Drive and one heck of an engine technology to match. And this is the SKYACTIV-G! Just wait until we get our hands on the SKYACTIV-D at some point in the near future. That thing could be downright scary when let loose out on the Interstate :D

    Wayne
     
  3. shadescape

    shadescape Banned

    thanks Wayne- this dealership is a pretty good all arround dealership-

    George thinks he has me pegged for a new vehicle-
     
  4. 50 mpg by 2012

    50 mpg by 2012 Well-Known Member

    A CX5 FWD observation ...

    US SkyActiv-G

    4 cyl, 2.0 L, Manual 6-spd, Regular Gasoline, SIDI
    EPA 29 mpg(US) combined 32.1 mpg(US) USER AVERAGE (sample 1)

    4 cyl, 2.0 L, Automatic (S6), Regular Gasoline SIDI
    EPA 29 mpg(US) combined 33.3 mpg(US) USER AVERAGE (sample 1)
    http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=browseList2&make=Mazda&model=CX-5 2WD


    US SkyActiv-D
    not MT or AT available in the US ... yet

    Notice that there is almost no difference (<1.2 mpg) between US SkyActiv-G MT and AT.



    EU SkyActiv-G

    2.0 SE-L MT 5dr Estate
    VCA 47.1 mpg(Imp) combined

    2.0 SE-L AT 5dr Estate
    No AT available according Mazda UK website

    However ....

    EU SkyActiv-D

    2.2d SE-L 5dr MT Estate
    VCA 61.4 mpg(Imp) combined
    http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mazda/cx-5/specs/2.2d-SE-L-5dr-Estate

    2.2d SE-L 5dr Auto Estate
    VCA 53.3 mpg(Imp) combined
    http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mazda/cx-5/specs/2.2d-SE-L-5dr-Auto-Estate


    Notice the large difference (~8.2 mpg) between EU SkyActiv-D AT and MT.

    Apparently there is a significantly lower (-13%) efficiency for the EU diesel AUTO TRANSMISSION compared to their EU diesel MANUAL TRANSMISSION for the CX5.

    Disturbing ... discovery.

    It may be related to the high SkyActiv-D torque 150ps with 380Nm torque or 175ps with 420Nm compared to the gasoline 165ps with 210Nm torque???

    See if ya'll can figure this one out ...
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2012
  5. 50 mpg by 2012

    50 mpg by 2012 Well-Known Member

    Found something interesting about the CX5 SkyAciv-G AT Touring yesterday ....

    Did a short test drive and noticed wind noise was surprisingly low under 50 mph.

    Returned to the dealership and looked over the exterior.

    I noticed that the front/headlight exterior clear cover is NOT a continuous smooth arc. I discovered a slight "rib?fin" at about 45o off vertical on the outboard surface maybe between 12 and 18 mm outside a projected smooth curve at its' highest point (a smooth crease if you will).

    It puzzled me! :confused: I have never seen anything like that before ... anywhere in automotives that I can remember.

    Looking at a sightline down the protruding ridge seems to line up across the fender contour with the passenger and driver side mirrors.

    I am speculating that its' purpose is to set up air flow to minimize turbulance arround the side mirrors ... hence lower wind noise, AND DRAG, at highway speeds.

    IF ... anyone has access to a CX5 .... please double check my observations and see if turbulance (and noise) arround the drver's side mirror is lower than typically experienced with tradional designs.

    IF valid ... these Mazda DESIGN ENGINEERS must be double checking every detail to minimize drag.

    IF anyone has a better idea ... let us know.
     
  6. CM82645

    CM82645 New Member

    Good review, but why do you keep calling it SKYATIV (minus the C)?
     
  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi CM:

    I corrected 7 miscues and they are due to a lack of typing ability, lack of an assignment editor, lack of a news editor, lack of a review editor, lack of a copy editor and no managing editor other than me :embarassed:

    Thanks for the heads up.

    Wayne
     
  8. jbenzene

    jbenzene New Member

    Hello all. New to the forums here. Came across this thread since I have been very interested in Mazda's new SkyActiv engine offerings, especially any diesel options which may be coming to the US.

    Just wanted to say that I honestly hope the Mazda is able to expand the small engine diesel market in the US so that there are more options than only VW. It would be great if we in the US were indeed offered a diesel CX-5 with high mpg, moderate storage space and more ground clearance than a standard passenger vehicle. Looking around the web, I am under the opinion there is enough interest in this type of vehicle for reasonable sales in the US.

    Maybe if enough email and phone requests are made with Mazda for a US diesel CX-5, their product planning team and execs will catch wind of it. I just made one myself but got the same response as others saying there are plans but no definite release dates. I have definitely been very satisfied with my 2003 Mazda P5 but have been thinking about an upgrade and would like to stick with Mazda.

    Anyone have any insider info on the SkyActiv-D engines coming to the US?
     
  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Jbenzene:

    Welcome to CleanMPG!

    I cannot say much other than the new 2014 Mazda6 with the SKYACTIV-D is “slated” for the US. Whether it actually arrives or arrives without the more robust emissions equipment is still in play. We have been in touch with Mazda a number of times but a drive will probably not occur until spring of 2013 at the earliest. By that time, everyone will know what Mazda’s plans are for the SKYATIV-D in North America. The turbo diesel fits so well into both the all-new 6 and the CX-5 story that I hope it makes it in both. And at a price that most can afford too of course.

    Reliability, great handling, great looking interior/exterior along with a fuel saving turbo diesel would make the 6 and CX-5 very tough to overlook no matter what else you were considering. SKYACTIV-G makes it an admirable contender. SKYACTIV-D would make them (either the 6 or CX-5) the force to be reckoned with in their particular segments.

    Wayne
     
  10. jbenzene

    jbenzene New Member

    Wayne:

    Thanks for the response. I am glad to hear that there is interest in bringing new diesel technology to the States. I did see on some reports that the diesel engine is more likely to go in the new Mazda6 before the CX-5.

    If Mazda were to release a SkyActiv-D Mazda6 wagon, that would be a car I would be very interested in also. It seems that consumers in the US miss out on many great cars, especially diesel and wagons.
     
  11. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Jbenzene:

    In the US, the 6 is the Mazda scheduled to receive the 2.2L SKYACTIV-D first. AND I so much hope that to be the case… There is a little WR that needs to be taken out and it’s the car that is scheduled to do just that. Whoops, I did not say that did I ;)

    Wayne
     
  12. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    I'd vote for a Mazda3 with Skyactiv-D and the supposedly upcoming lighter body. Waiting for such a miracle to appear in the U.S. might take too long, though.
     
  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    While we all wait for the CX-5 with the SKYACTIV-D to arrive (probably in 2014 as a 2015), I have received (2) e-mails from the Mazda folks running the 2014 Mazda6 Long Lead in the Phoenix area scheduled for late January that the 2014 CX-5 with the all-new 2.5L SKYACTIV-G will be a part of the reveal and drive program as well.

    2014 Mazda6 and CX-5’s 2.5L SKYACTIV-G

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    I doubt the stick will be available with the 2.5L but I sure would like to give the CX-5 another drive. One of my favorite vehicles given the size, utility and fuel efficiency.

    Not sure if the more powerful yet still effcieint all-new 2.5L SKYACTIV-G engine on top of the all-new 2.0L SKYACTIV-G engine we drove this past spring will offer up yeet another 60 mpgUS result but we’ll see…

    I spoke with one of Mazda’s top US Exec’s at the LA Auto Show last week and he is still “hopeful” that the 192 HP SKYACTIV-G engine in the beautiful 2014 Mazda6 will match or even beat the 2013 Altima’s 38 mpgUS highway rating.

    The 2013 Mazda CX-5 picked up yet another accolade in Japan earlier this week which I will try and post when ("if") I get home by tomorrow morning...

    Wayne
     
  14. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    While I was in California the past week and a half, the CX-5 was busy racking up the awards…

    The 2013 Mazda CX-5 was today named the "Most Earth-Friendly" Truck of the Year for 2013 by Earth, Wind & Power (EWP) Media. The award was presented to Mazda North American Operations (MNAO) at the North American International Auto Show (NAIAS). In its fifth year, the mission of the EWP Awards is to honor vehicles that are driven by a power source that helps improve climate change by reducing the amount of CO2 emissions entering the Earth's atmosphere, promote a cleaner environment and support the ultimate mission to achieve energy independence through alternative power sources.

    Mazda was also presented with the "2013 SUV of the Year for the Americas" award for the 2013 CX-5 by the Federacion Internacional de Periodistas del Automovil (International Federation of Automotive Journalists) (FIPA).

    Headquartered in Guatemala, the annual FIPA awards are chosen by members of the Interamerican Automotive Journalists Federation (IAJP), which touts members in more than 20 countries. Awards are named in three categories - Car, SUV and Pilot (motorsports driver) - with each category featuring the top 10 contenders in that class. The Car of the Year award is in its twelfth year, the Pilot of the Year award in its eleventh and SUV of the Year is the latest addition with its seventh appearance on the ballot. The 2013 CX-5 bested its nine category competitors.

    Wayne
     
  15. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    2016 Mazda CX-5 Mild Refresh and Pricing Announced

    The 2016 CX-5 continues to be available in three trim levels – Sport, Touring and Grand Touring – in either FWD or AWD configurations.

    2016 Mazda CX-5

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    The exterior receives minor updates to the grille.

    Particular effort went into improving the interior quality with improved materials. Enhancements include updates to the front and rear seats and suspension system, as well as adding additional sound insulation.

    Mazda stated their AWD system was also updated for 2016.

    2016 Mazda CX-5 MSRP (USD)

    Column1Column2Column3Column4
    TrimDriveTransmissionPrice
    SportFWD6-speed MT$21,795
    SportFWD6-speed AT$23,195
    TouringFWD6-speed AT$25,215
    Grand TouringFWD6-speed AT$28,220

    SportAWD6-speed AT$24,445
    Grand TouringAWD6-speed AT$29,470

    The entry-level Mazda CX-5 with the 6-speed manual transmission (MT) is equipped with the same 2.0L SKYACTIV-G I4 gas engine in FWD only. It starts at $21,795 and for 2016 includes an electronic parking brake, an upgraded center console, dash and armrest design.

    The six-speed automatic transmission (AT) (MSRP $23,195 for FWD and $24,445 for AWD) adds the 2.5L I4 engine, producing 184 horsepower at 5,700 rpm and 185 lb-ft of torque at 3,250 rpm. The Sport model offers a Rear Camera Package ($400 MSRP) that includes a rear view camera, seven-inch full-color touchscreen display with multi-function commander control, MAZDA CONNECT Infotainment System and HD Radio.

    2016 Mazda CX-5 Interior

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    The 2016 Mazda CX-5 Touring (MSRP $25,215 for FWD and $26,465 for AWD) includes the seven-inch full-color touchscreen display with multi-function commander control, MAZDA CONNECT Infotainment System and manual passenger seat lifter.

    The Bose/Moonroof Package ($1,130 MSRP) is offered with the Touring models and includes a Bose nine-speaker sound system and a power-sliding glass moonroof.

    The Touring Technology Package ($1,625 MSRP) – must be combined with the Bose/Moonroof Package, adds Navigation, Smart City Brake Support (SBS), LED headlights with auto leveling, Pivoting Adaptive Front-lighting System (AFS), LED foglights, LED signature daytime running lights, LED combination taillights, auto on and off headlights, rain-sensing windshield wipers and an auto dimming mirror with Homelink.

    The Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring model (MSRP $28,220 for FWD and $29,470 for AWD) adds leather seating surfaces, a new instrument panel and seven-inch full-color touch screen display with multi-function commander control.

    A new i-ACTIVSENSE package is now available on Grand Touring models ($1,500 MSRP) and includes Radar Cruise Control (MRCC) with Close Proximity Warning, Smart Brake Support (SBS) with Collision Warning, Lane Departure Warning (LDW) and High Beam Control (HBC). The i-ACTIVSENSE package requires the Grand Touring Technology Package ($1,505 MSRP), which includes navigation, Smart City Brake Support (SBS), LED headlights with auto leveling, Pivoting Adaptive Front-lighting System (AFS), LED foglights, LED Signature Daytime Running Lights, LED Combination Taillights and auto dimming mirror with Homelink.

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    Wayne
     

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