Taking an Elantra out for a 2-day Cruze ;)

Discussion in 'Hyundai' started by xcel, Mar 24, 2012.

  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

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    A look back at the Death Valley Sand Dunes. I only walked out about a block because it was like standing in a sand blaster!

    Wayne
     
  2. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    A little on setup.

    Placard all around on both vehicles. 35 psi for the Cruze ECO and 32 psi for the Elantra GLS.

    Because of the time at which the Cruze ECO arrived, we decided to equalize both by driving about 30-miles and then press them up to their respective placards. The temp at fill was 52 degrees F so while not a cold fill; at least both vehicles were filled under similar conditions. A cold tire pressure check saw psi drop by .4 to .5 psi all around on both.

    2012 Chevrolet Cruze Eco

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    Tire Pressures: RF -- RR top and LF -- LR bottom.

    2012 Hyundai Elantra GLS

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    Tire Pressures: RF -- RR top and LF -- LR bottom​

    Wayne
     
  3. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Initial top off fill at a Velero in National City, CA just outside of San Diego, CA.

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    Reset displays. The Cruze ECO had 4,612 miles and the Elantra GLS had 1,331 miles on their respective odometer(s).​

    Wayne
     
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2012
  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    First Fill in Barstow, CA.

    2012 Chevrolet Cruze ECO

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    15.137 gallons consumed after 642.0 miles per Google maps = 42.413 mpgUS.

    2012 Hyundai Elantra GLS

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    13.557 gallons consumed after 642.0 miles per Google maps = 47.356 mpgUS.​

    Because the pumps at this Shell station were fast flowing, I was sure the Elantra was short by at least .25 gallons without spilling after another 10 or more top offs with violent shaking between. The slow fill pumps at the Velero in Nations City where we initially filled would give us an accurate final fill and totals once we got there.

    The Cruze ECO with the AT’s odometer/Trip A/B were almost dead on whereas the Elantra was showing the usual -2.2% under report which is good for customers since they earn another 2.2% on their warranties.

    Wayne
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 26, 2012
  5. SentraSE-R

    SentraSE-R Pishtaco

    It will be interesting to read the design parameters for this drive. It obviously comes closer to how the average law-abiding non-hypermiler would drive.
     
  6. EVuser

    EVuser Well-Known Member

    I think we know exactly what you mean but the wording comes awfully close to sounding like hypermilers are not "law-abiding."

    As some folks think going 55-50 in a 65 or less than the psl is illegal, I just want to be on record that hypermilers are law-abiding more of the time than the average driver.
    :flag:

    Mike
     
  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Darrel:

    The only thing different from previous drives is we used the DWL approach over the mountains and used CC at 65 mph + on the flats.

    EVUser, like you said, we were always law abiding.

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    I-215 corridor traffic top. US-395 traffic and lights bottom.​

    While the I-15 was relatively clear, the I-215 was a construction delayed mess and this was Saturday morning.

    Where the drive really gets tough however is as soon as we exited I-15 onto US-395. There is a 20 + mile stretch of what may be 25 lights with 55 mph PSL’s. Just before we exited onto US-395, we had a 61 mph average speed. By the time we got through the lights and 50 mile string of double lane traffic and into Ridgecrest, CA for our lunch stop, we were down to 54 mph. This is approximately where it leveled off for the climb into the west entrance of Death Valley National Park, the fall down the backside and into Death Valley proper, through the dust storm and making our way to Las Vegas with the horrific headwinds.

    Wayne
     
  8. herm

    herm Well-Known Member

    Its odd to see so much sand and no beach nearby..
     
  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    This was a pic sequence taken during the high speed break in segment performed last Friday.

    The high speed run was driven with severely varying RPM’s from Western, AZ to Carlsbad, CA to help age the car and scrub the tires as quickly as possible.

    2012 Hyundai Elantra at high speeds

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    72 mph avg speed with 35.1 mpg average after 250 miles.​

    I snapped the pic about 2 miles after I had reached the heavy Friday afternoon commuter stop and crawl traffic heading towards LA. Top average speed was 74 mph during this high speed jaunt west.

    Speeds during some portions of this drive touched triple digits with CC set at 80 mph during a few of the flatter sections of I-8 for the drive back. All performed on a closed course with a professional driver at the wheel of course :) Yeah, right :eek: :rolleyes:

    If anyone bitches because their fuel consumption is to low even when far exceeding the PSL’s, they have no place to turn other than into the mirror.

    By the time I fought through the LA traffic, drove up the I-5 during rush and arrived in Carlsbad, CA, the average was down to just 58 mph.

    Wayne
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2012
  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Herm:

    I will have to look but at some point in the far distance past, those dunes within Death Valley were below at least one-half a mile of water! :rolleyes:

    Wayne
     
  11. herm

    herm Well-Known Member

    Wayne, anything to the right of the decimal point does not count as a digit :)
     
  12. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    A little something different regarding the comparison drive just bfore I post the final fill and total consumption comparison details but it is noteworthy none the less.

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    2012 Hyundai Elantra GLS - Front and rear seat room.

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    2012 Chevrolet Cruze ECO - Front and rear seat room.​

    The Elantra GLS has more leg room then the Cruze but my head was touching the headliner so taller folks will have an issue back there without slumping or slouching in the seat.

    The Cruze ECO had power front seats which was nice. The rear had great headroom but the leg room and ability to get my feet underneath the front seats was severely constrained making for not so comfortable rear seat passengers.

    We beat the storm into San Diego for the measured drive but we were caught in the beginning of it for the seating pics. It was downpouring by the time we got the Cruze pics completed.

    Wayne
     
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2012
  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    The final fill and total consumption details…

    Round Trip Route Map

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    823 miles per Google Maps

    2012 Chevrolet Cruze ECO - Final fill detail

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    OEM aFCD: 180.3 miles - 47.4 mpg - 57.1 mph avg. speed.
    181 actual miles on 4.116 gallons = 43.975 mpgUS.

    2012 Hyundai Elantra GLS - Final fill detail

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    OEM aFCD/Trip A: 176.7 miles - 42.8 mpg.
    181 actual miles on 4.486 gallons = 40.348 mpg. And making up for the .25 to 0.35 gallon short fill in Barstow, CA.

    2012 Chevrolet Cruze ECO vs. 2012 Hyundai Elantra - Final Fuel Economy Results

    Tank 1 - National City, CA to Barstow, CA.

    Column1Column2Column3Column4Column5Column6Column7Column8
    VehicleVehicle Avg SpeedOdometer (miles)Actual milesFuel (gal)Actual MPGaFCD (mpg)aFCD offset (%)
    Elantra GLS54628.164213.557*47.356*44.4-9.37%*
    Cruze ECO54.3641.264215.13742.41345.4+7.04%

    * First measured fill was short by .25 to .35 gallons due to high flow pump and spillage for any more additional at the Shell in Barstow, CA.

    Tank 2 - Barstow, CA to National City, CA

    Column1Column2Column3Column4Column5Column6Column7Column8
    VehicleVehicle Avg SpeedOdometer (miles)Actual milesFuel (gal)Actual MPGaFCD (mpg)aFCD offset (%)
    Elantra GLS57176.71814.486**40.348**42.8+6.08%**
    Cruze ECO57.1180.31814.11643.97547.4+7.79%

    ** Final fill was a full top off with the Velero slow pump in National City.

    Combined (Overall Trip)

    Column1Column2Column3Column4Column5Column6Column7Column8
    VehicleVehicle Avg SpeedOdometer (miles)Actual milesFuel (gal)Actual MPGaFCD (mpg)aFCD offset (%)
    Elantra GLS54.9804.882318.04345.61344.0-3.54%
    Cruze ECO54.9821.582319.25342.74745.8+7.14%

    Wayne
     
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2012
  14. herm

    herm Well-Known Member

    Go team USA! :flag:
     
  15. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I had similar results ony my trip from Chicago to Phoenix , driving pretty much the same way : CC at 70 mph except for the hills , where I would DWL down to 55 mph sometimes.
    I averaged 44.5 MPG for the roughly 3600 miles , but I think some of the tanks were pure gasoline ( no corn squeezin's). It was hard to get a straight(informed) answer from the gas station attendants.
     
  16. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Go Team Honda !
     
  17. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    Additional info - Temperatures ranged from the upper 50s at the start of the drive to a high of 96F as indicated on the dash of the Cruze Eco in the heart of Death Valley.
    Also interesting - Heading over the Cajon Pass, I noticed the temperature on the dash display read 59 in San Bernardino, and 68 in Victorville, on the other side of the mountain range. From there, temperatures headed up as we headed up - northward toward Ridgecrest, where it was in the low 80s. At the end of the drive, just south of San Diego, it was back in the low 60s and windy as a storm approached from out in the Pacific.
     
  18. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    More photos from the drive:


    North on US395, 192 miles into the trip, 553mi DTE, 46mpg on aFCD, and 66mph. Top right is distance and aFCD at lunch stop.

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    Stopped for lunch and wifi access in Ridgecrest, CA at 1:35pm as Wayne preps the tripod for photos just outside.

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    Heading into Death Valley, with the lower photo showing the panoramic mountain range and the road disappearing into the distance.

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    Views of the sand storm ahead, and in Death Valley, it was a toasty 96F at 4pm somewhere between the "Stovepipe" (Wells) and the "Furnace" (Creek).

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    More below...
     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2012
  19. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    More photos from Death Valley and back toward San Diego:


    Wayne playing the part of Mr. Sandman, enjoying an exfoliating blast of finely-ground silica crystals while capturing the moment on digital film.

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    Death Valley is really getting overpopulated, and they need to stop building so many strip malls and McMansions...

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    Outside the car was a toasty 90F but ahead, the mountains are capped with the snow that fell the week before.

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    Later, returning to San Diego, we were on a mission to beat the approaching storm. Photos below were taken 1-1/2 hours apart, near San Bernardino and then near Miramar.

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  20. bestmapman

    bestmapman Fighting untruth and misinformation

    Sounds like you guys had a great trip.
     

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