Kia Motors and CleanMPG unite for a Guinness record attempt

Discussion in 'In the News' started by msirach, Aug 26, 2011.

  1. SentraSE-R

    SentraSE-R Pishtaco

    Looking forward to trip summaries from Wayne & Chris after today's publicity stories. Kia should lift the non-disclosure agreement soon, I hope.

    Congratulations, guys!
  2. herm

    herm Well-Known Member

    Congratulations on the new record!

    but the Prius plug in will use lithium ion batteries, that is a 10% increase in coulombic efficiency over nimh batteries.. so heavy users of the battery should notice an improvement.
  3. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

    ItsNotAboutTheMoney Super Moderator Staff Member

    The battery is 110 pounds heavier. I don't know about the rest but I'd be disappointed if it's 90 pounds worth.
  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Still catching up including building a new PC for my workstation. 60 W vs. 200 W on my old desktop which has taken the better part of a day :)

    The past 3-days we were in a blackout of sorts as both Chris and I had to document each and every Google and GPS mile traveled including links into a clean spreadsheet. I will try and post it tomorrow.

    Korea released the final Guinness figures of 64.5 mpgUS and I will have more later.

  5. msirach

    msirach Well-Known Member

    Hi Wayne! Congrats on your achievement. Glad to see you made it home okay. Too bad they didn't give you the Optima Hybrid for a birthday gift.:D
  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    A few stats to share by comparison to the other 48-Contiguous State drive in the Cruze ECO some of you had inquired about earlier in the thread.

    Metric2011 Chevrolet Cruze Eco Compact – Taylors2011 Kia Optima Midsize Hybrid - Chris and Wayne
    Overall Fuel Consumption (mpgUS)64.42464.558
    EPA Highway Rating (mpgUS)4240
    % over EPA Highway Rating53.39%61.39%
    Total Distance Driven (miles)9,564.27,899.4
    Total Gallons Consumed (gallons)148.457122.361
    Number of Tanks Consumed11.7895.543
    Average Miles Driven per Tank (miles)811.291,425.11
    Longest Tank Driven (miles)Unknown1,519.4
    Total Cost of Fuel ($USD)$541.24$468.07

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  7. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Excellent result Wayne - interesting stats too. You and Chris drove 17.4% less miles than the other team to cover the same 48 states!
  8. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

    ItsNotAboutTheMoney Super Moderator Staff Member

    To be fair to the Taylors, from reading about it:
    - Being backed by Shell they were stopping at Shell stations only (and they'd have more stops)
    - They did some clinics on their route

    So, some of those extra miles would have been unavoidable and some were useful. They weren't necessarily mpg-hikers.
  9. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Didn't realise that - cheers. Still a cracking result though :D
  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Colin:

    We did not take the most mpg efficient route but did take the lowest fuel consumption route per the guidelines we were given by both Kia and Guinness. This included over 40-hours of Google map work before we even pushed the button. A few examples included US-93 and US-12 up through NV and across ID/MT which included 40-miles of gravel roads plus winding twisting roads for most of the segment vs. the I-5 and I-90. We took the detours into Las Vegas, Aberdeen, and Chicago for the backdrops, the dealer stop in Liverpool, NY plus the insane beyond 6% grade back country roads in New Hampshire when having to avoid our primary route (Rt. 9) that was blocked due to Hurricane Irene and then Tropical Storm Lee. All told, we left about 1 mpg on the table with the enhanced routing but saved well over 400-miles in travel and thus reduced our total consumption.

    A little addition we promised near the start of the trip…

    The curb weight that Kia provided in the 2011 Kia Optima Hybrid specifications page shows 3,490 pounds.


    On the truck weigh scale, we were sitting at 4,180 pounds indicating that between Chris and me, our luggage and equipment, we were hauling around an extra 690 pounds and were within 200 pounds of the Optima Hybrid’s GVWR.

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  11. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

    ItsNotAboutTheMoney Super Moderator Staff Member

    That's a nice saving of 3.35% or 4.24 gallons, although it sounds like you might have worked the car hard. ;)

    I understood that you were minimizing consumption. My reply was to frv who commented on the large difference in distance between you and the Taylors.

    Minimizing consumption is a much better way to think of it and well done to Guinness if they changed from mileage to gallons. You should have probably put the gallons at the top of your table to reflect the importance. :)

    I know the importance: my mileage is worse than it could be but by pooling 3 days per full 5 day week (including cycling a mile to my pooler's house when he's driving) both my overall mpg and my wife's overall mpg (I ride, Prius bumps Civic) have risen significantly. :D

    I think You missed 4 lines off your table.

    Metric2011 Chevrolet Cruze Eco Compact – Taylors2011 Kia Optima Midsize Hybrid - Chris and Wayne
    Driver 1 Weight
    Driver 1 Cargo Weight
    Driver 2 Weight
    Driver 2 Cargo Weight


    Although I need and I'm trying again to drop 40lbs myself. :eek:
  12. essaunders

    essaunders Well-Known Member

    Ok. I guess I missed it. What route did you take through NH?
  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Essaunders:

    We continued to drive down I-90 to Chicopee, MA, up I-91 to Brattleboro, crossing into NH on VT/NH 9, dropping off onto NH 101 to NH 137 to US 202 and back onto NH 9 in Hillsborough. NH 101 was a rough curvy and mountainous SOB! I tested out the Optima Hybrid’s handling in the rain quite extensively on that one to put it bluntly :rolleyes:

  14. uRabbit

    uRabbit Well-Known Member

    Wish I could have seen you guys when you passed thru Idaho.

    Just so you know, I have NEVER - not in my 18 years of living here - seen ONE potato crop. I see a LOT of alfalfa and corn.
  15. bestmapman

    bestmapman Fighting untruth and misinformation

    Congrats. Great job.
  16. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

    ItsNotAboutTheMoney Super Moderator Staff Member

    Have you ever seen any large brown fields?
  17. RichXKU

    RichXKU Well-Known Member

    I just wanted to tell you both good luck, we're all counting on you

  18. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

  19. JonNC

    JonNC Driving Smarter Since 06/07/2011

    Congrats to Wayne and Chris (and Kia) for a job well done.
    I wish we could have met up but I can wait until the next challenge that comes my way.

    BTW, could you guys give me the elevation differences of the route from crossing the VA/NC line on 77 to 485 (around Charlotte) to 85 to Atlanta?
    I made that trip back in May and am curious about it.
    With me, my dad and my sister's husband (plus lots of luggage) with an average cruising speed of 67-70 miles came out to ~35 mpg. On the way back, with cruise locked in @ 75 mpg, came out to ~38, and that tank included about a half an hour of stop and crawl getting into midtown Atlanta. It had to be uphill on the way there and downhill on the way back (at least I think), I would just like to know just how much.
  20. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Bringing this one back as I just uploaded the second best vid of the trip.

    Here is a little vid Chris and I created during day 2 of the 48-Contiguous State FE World Record Drive.


    Enjoy the “Show Me” State in a manner you may have never seen before ;)


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