New to the community, i have many questions!! Hah.

Discussion in 'Start Your Journey Here' started by carrmann, May 10, 2011.

  1. Parasite

    Parasite Well-Known Member

    I would second that 5% increase from tire pressure. It is about what I got when I found out about higher pressure being better for MPG.
  2. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    It should be noted that some vehicles are more sensitive (in terms of improvement in FE) than others. The first generation Insight is one of those vehicles. ;)
  3. carrmann

    carrmann Well-Known Member

    we'll see how it does. looks like the dealership did the 'full vehicle inspection' and wrote down all 4 tires were at 34psi.. but they lied. all 4 were at 39psi. I bumped them all to max psi (44psi).

    how do you get that signature showing the mileage etc. for the vehicle?
  4. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    Hi, Carrmann! Click the link at the very bottom of my signature block and you'll find an article telling you exactly how to add the mileage banner.
  5. carrmann

    carrmann Well-Known Member

  6. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    Lookin' good! :thumbs_up:
  7. LinuxGold

    LinuxGold Hypermile to the finest

    Yay! =)

    Can't wait to see you SOAR!
  8. carrmann

    carrmann Well-Known Member

    any suggestions on what oil I should use in the car? we are already at 600miles on it after 6 days of ownership (got it with less than 20).

    hope I will see a MPG improvement with 44psi vs 39. As best I can tell the ride didnt change at all.
  9. FSUspectra

    FSUspectra Practicing true conservatism!

    I would go with an oil in the lowest grade advised for your vehicle in its owners manual. I imagine it will be 5W30, possibly 5W20. If that is the case, you can run 0W30, or 0W20, respectively. Keep it to within the recommended intervals. You can run synthetic if you choose, but the savings in fuel may not match the cost difference over the oil change interval. Many will say Mobil1, but I run anything I find on sale/clearance. I would go to the dealer, or next best, a trusted mechanic, to have the oil changes done & documented for warranty purposes. You don't want to give the manufacturer/dealer any reason not to honor the warranty.
    Last edited: May 12, 2011
  10. carrmann

    carrmann Well-Known Member

    What is everyones method for 'topping' off a vehicle?

    My on dash mpg was WAY off what I saw for mpg based on miles traveled/gallons put in. Display showed 38.9mpg, i saw 32.3mpg with math. Granted last person to fill it up was my wife so I doubt she did more than the first 'click'. I added 1.16 gallons after the pump clicked.

  11. I always stop at the first click. It's faster and any inconsistencies will work themselves out over several tanks.
  12. carrmann

    carrmann Well-Known Member

    so do you leave it on full bore, and then when it pops you just shut off the pump? i thought that would leave a lot of 'empty' space in the gas tank
  13. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

    ItsNotAboutTheMoney Super Moderator Staff Member

    Yes, it leaves lots of empty space. Either you fill it to the brim to get consistent readings quickly (as they did on the F150 challenge) or you use multiple tank averages to decrease your margin of error.

    I've taken to topping off about half a gallon, although I've gone up to a gallon after first click if it tops off easily. But I do that just to cut the number of trips to the gas station.
  14. carrmann

    carrmann Well-Known Member

    so now that i've driven it for a bit I noticed something that Im unsure of. What the heck does the distance till empty gauge 'read' from to show what it does?? My avg right now (all city driving) shows 37mpg, but my dte would put me at about 100 miles on a tank less than it should.

    anyone have an idea?

    also... will an ultragauge work in my hybrid sonata?? also in my ram (it is obdII). i'd rather that than the scangauge due to ease of use and ease of swapping back/forth between the vehicles.
  15. FSUspectra

    FSUspectra Practicing true conservatism!

    Is there a lifetime average and a trip average display?
  16. carrmann

    carrmann Well-Known Member

    nope. not that I can find. the avg mpg and instant mpg are on 1 screen. the avg is in #s... the instant is on a 'gauge' showing 0-25-50mpg.

    i have a graph on the main screen that shows avg mpg over 30 minutes in 2.5m increments which does help.

    the avg mpg display also resets whenever you reset your trip a (not sure about trip b). so its definitely only a tank average display. no 'trip average as best I can tell unless I reset trip a every time i drove (or maybe trip b?)
  17. msirach

    msirach Well-Known Member

    What is easier than 1 plug and walking to a second vehicle?:D It's worth the accuracy.
  18. carrmann

    carrmann Well-Known Member

    i thought you had to reprogram the scangauge every time you changed vehicles with the weird cipher codes etc or whatever every time?? plus I thought the scangauge was harder to setup.

    I like the view of the ultragauge, and my wife will too compared to the scangauge. She doesnt get along with anything complicated... at all.
  19. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    Both SG and UG have options for programming to a particular car - the tank size and engine size. Going beyond that, calibration for offset to make the gauge more accurate.
    I use my UG as a throwaway - to plug into various cars for resetting the check engine light, or to give some driving lessons. If I plug my gauge into another car that doesn't support some of the gauges, they show up as blank. If I plug it into my car again, the gauges reappear.

    If you would be using either gauge for a sort of mpg guidance, calibrate it for the Sonata, and then use it periodically in the truck whenever you want to see which techniques work best. If the truck is used frequently, keep in mind that a 10% mpg improvement in the truck puts more money in your pocket than a 10% improvement in the Sonata.

    For people who aren't motorheads and don't understand the complex numbers flashing by on either gauge, the best approach is to provide a basic explanation of each and provide a target range or goal for each. For example, I tell my wife to keep LOD (engine load) as high as possible, but under 85. She knows that she should avoid 'open loop' as indicated on the gauge, and that battery voltage should be above 11.8 (useful when engine is off but key is on). Once in top gear, the goal is to keep instant mpg as high as possible, with the understanding that the number goes down on uphills and vice versa.

    The unique programming you are describing is for X-gauges, which will vary between different cars and manufacturers. For the few dozen gauges that most OBD cars include, you can select them and they will work properly on any car that is less 15 years old.
    Last edited by a moderator: May 15, 2011
  20. carrmann

    carrmann Well-Known Member

    understood in terms of improvement in fuel mpg truck vs sonata. however we will be driving the sonata roughly 20k a year vs about 2k-3k in the truck. its basically a 'secondary' vehicle for if we need it, and to move/tow stuff with lol.

    i doubt the wife will use it almost at all to be honest. telling her about it pissed her off lol.

    from what i read so far on the forums it seems the ultragauge is easier to setup/use and has a better display.. but overall the scangauge is more accurate and has more 'options' on gauges etc. ??? this accurate?

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