Discussion in 'In the News' started by xcel, Mar 2, 2011.
This week could be it... hope that the car still there, if not, 90 days wait...
WTH..... they got the car in stock, but since it does not got the spare tire and fog lamps, they want me to order another one "customized to my liking"... little bit frsutrated with this setback, but will give another shot this week, if i can't get a deal, i'm done with it....
deal is off, had to look for another dealer, but, now the elantra is here, and i can get it for $6000 less than the Cruze....hmmm
Hi SD3 Driver:
While I have only sat in the 11 Elantra (to many times to count actually ), I hope you find it meets your needs in spades. That said; do not count the Cruze ECO out as it has proven itself to be very economical thanks to those tall ratios.
Because I am currently being overwhelmed with a number of event drives, short lead press launches and presentation projects all over the darn country over the next 6-weeks, I was only able to schedule an 11 Elantra w/ a stick drive for the week of May 20th through the 27th. Hopefully you will be able to provide us your own overview of whichever you decide to finally purchase.
i'been very unlucky with the Cruze; as of today, still waiting for dealer #1 final price ( 40 something days, that's too much), got the price on dealer#2, but is a little bit higher than #1 without the options.... but they also sell Huyndais, so i asked for the Sonata and Elantra. Only the SE and GLS are available and the Turbo will be by August, but no Hybrid for now. They had 10 Elantras last Thursday, and were gone by yesterday morning; all of them automatics. Now have to wait for the next shipment of Elantras, and hope for a gray with manual tranny... Only the GLS will be available here, so i'm not sure if i can get the same as on the Cruze ( fog lamps, cruise control, bluetooth, etc...) for $6000 less. As for the hybrids, the fusion maybe a little expensive for me now ( will go to a ford dealer tomorow) and maybe the Sonata H will not be available here for now... but i hope to get the Cruze or Elantra by the summer.....
Hi SD3 Driver:
The 11 Elantra with a stick only comes in the GLS trim and with the Popular package (the only one it comes with), it still lacks BlueTooth. The only feature that I really wish came with the Popular Package over and above the rest actually. A/C, CC, Telescopic wheel, solar glass, windshield shade band and 16-inch steel wheels with full wheel covers and P205/55R16 tires are great but it needs Bluetooth! The GLS w/ AT and the Preferred Package comes with Bluetooth... I really like the 16” alloy wheels on the 11 Elantra Limited too
So what do I want? An 11 Elantra Limited with a stick.
Oh no!!!!!!!! no BT on the GLS manual... wow, buying a car has become hard nowadays... i still like the Cruze, but $6000 for BT and some other features looks expensive... still have to look for the Fusion H, but price could be well into the $30,000...
Hi SD3 Driver:
If I were considering an 11 Elantra GLS w/ a stick and the Popular Equipment package, I would consider this as the first accessory to equip the Elantra with not only a first rate 5” screened Navigation unit that just so happens to also incorporate Bluetooth
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Next, I would put out an all-points bulletin for anyone that despises the 16 alloys on the 11 Elantra Limited and tell them you will purchase the wheels and tires lock stock and barrel for $400 to start.
Of course I would purchase the same 5" screened NAVI unit if I were buying the 11 Cruze ECO or a 12 Focus SE as well
And make sure you check out the 12 Focus. While it will not offer the FE of the Cruze ECO (at least we have not seen it yet), it handles even better in some respects than the Mazda3 while still providing decent FE and a decent price if you watch those options.
That's the point i don't like about the Focus ( fuel economy), but since i will be going to a Ford dealer this week, i'll be taking a look at it (if the got it in stock)...
Interesting tidbit - For 2012, the 1.4T 6AT powertrain is rumored to return an additional 2mpg on the highway EPA for LT/LTZ/Eco. That would make the 6AT LT/LTZ 24/38 on the EPA and the 6AT Eco 26/39.
They are also changing the manual seat adjusters from 8 way to 6 way - doing away with the seat tilt.
And they are (inexplicably) removing the center rear seat headrest.
New for 2012? An optional smokers package (assumed to be a lighter element and a tin cup). So if you meet anyone with brown teeth and whiplash, it is probably a 2012 Cruze owner.
But hey, two new colors are coming - Autumn metallic and Blue Topaz metallic. And for those carring the suitcase of Ben Franklins into the dealer to buy an LTZ, they will be treated to keyless access and keyless start.
Here is the ratio chart for the transmissions and final drive:
MR5 *LT (1.4T) - 4.27, 2.35, 1.47, 1.07, 0.87, 0.74/ 3.83 Final Drive
MZ0 1LS (1.8L) - 3.82, 2.16, 1.47, 1.07, 0.87, 0.74/ 3.94 Final Drive
MF3 Eco (1.4T) - 3.82, 2.05, 1.30, 0.96, 0.74, 0.61/ 3.83 Final Drive
MH8 Automatic - 4.58, 2.96, 1.91, 1.44, 1.00, 0.74/ 3.53 Final Drive
The new 6MT for the 1LT/2LT is the same as the LS in 3rd to 6th, but has the turbo-friendly 1st/2nd. One bright spot is that the final drive is the one from the Eco, not from the LS, so that 0.74 top gear (same as 5th in the Eco 6MT) is a bit better than the 3.94 final drive used with the 1.8L LS.
Finally able to test drive the 11 Elantra (auto, GLS) today and it was really nice. Also drove the Sonata GLS and the Genesis Coupe. As for the FE shown on the FCD, with about 20 miles avg. on the odo, the Elantra was showing 29mpg, the Coupe 24mpg and the Sonata 22mpg. Little on the low side for the Sonata ( 22/35) vs the Coupe (21/30), but the Coupe was the only manual. By the end of june they should have the manual, but no guarantee on the color ( gray, charcoal) so i'm really considering the auto, that could be here by mid may...
Went to a Ford dealer today and saw that Fusion H.... very nice car, but my dreams were crushed when i saw the MSRP...... $39,000. i'm looking for a max monthly payment of $400... waiting for the salesman to call but i know it will be almost impossible to get that payment down to $400 ( insurance included ) with that MSRP... well maybe in 6 or 7 years a hybrid will be affordable for me...
$39K MSRP for a FFH?? Ours was pretty much decked out and a lot less than that!!
Talk to the salesman yesterday and the price is down to $37,000, and that is all they can do for me; the car has all the options available ( 501a and 502a ). After all, i think is a good deal, MSRP+options+tax and i got retail price of $36,500 so they are making $500 bucks on the sale...
500 over MSRP including options or 500 under MSRP and adding options, sorry I'm not familiar with their pricing structures
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