2012 Ford Focus automatic in LA this weekend...

Discussion in 'Ford' started by xcel, Feb 5, 2011.

  1. msirach

    msirach Well-Known Member

    If you are having 20-30 mph sustained headwinds with gusts to 50 mph like we are, that's not that bad. I had a 30% mpg hit this morning driving 25 miles into this headwind with 70° temps and no rain.
     
  2. msirach

    msirach Well-Known Member

    The first thing my eyes are drawn to on the Focus are the wheels. That's bad considering they are the same color as the car. It's not like it is bright red wheels on a silver car. (or is it?):confused:
     
  3. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    A few more interesting tidbits…

    2012 Ford Focus SFE

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    Traffic on the I-495 in afternoon rush on Long Island.​

    From a touch beyond the PA and NJ border where I filled up to Chris’ is a 95 mile drive right into the teeth of NY City Rush Hour with a 05:00 PM arrival. Total time for the 95-miles was 3.5 hours in case anyone is counting a std. Stop and Crawl into and through the Big Apple at rush? The good thing using the techniques we have taught, the Focus SFE can do damage to the EPA even in that! She allowed 46.2 mpg per the aFCD and ~ 47.0 mpg actual. I was surprised given the middling results in terrible conditions achieved over the previous 519 miles. Because this 6-speed AT starts in a warm-up mode for 10-seconds (negative IGN) until the ECU figures out that the car is already warmed up w. feedback from the O2’s, a FAS is simply not worth it unless its mile(s) long. Simple NICE-On’s, L to keep her in Fuel-cut during must stops, DWB and buffers to keep moving through the crawls and anticipatory focus to maneuver around and through the slow downs makes the Focus a decent weapon with mixed traffic.

    Wayne
     
  4. Wraith

    Wraith New Member

    First post, with a few questions, regarding the Focus. (I didn't find a writeup on the results of this thread elsewhere. If there's a better place for these questions, please point me in the right direction.)

    • Was the handling on the SE SFE noticeably different than the Titanium and SE Sport? The SE SFE doesn't have the sport-tuned suspension, which is on the Titanium, and I think on the SE's Sport package (the official site is a little unclear on this). The SFE is also on 16" LRR tires.

    • Did your SE SFE have the package with "SYNC elements" and "MyFord driver connect"? I understand these are different than SYNC + MyFord Touch, but not sure what they entail, whether this package is a worthwhile option.

    • Though the SFE was tested in adverse conditions, would you expect it to do better than the Titanium (EPA 27/37), given the same conditions?

    • For someone looking for high mpg with an automatic, but not trying for advanced hypermiling techniques like FAS, is the Focus SE SFE pretty much the best option? (Outside of Hybrids and TDIs.) The Civic, Civic HF, and Elantra are within +/- 1 mpg EPA, but based on reviews, the Focus is the better car, overall.


    I'm thinking about a new car, considering the Civic (28-?/39-41), Focus (27-28/37-40), and new Impreza (27/36, AWD, CVT, not out for a few months). No stop & go traffic on my commute, so not sure that a hybrid is worth it. SE SFE doesn't have as many available options/features as the Titanium, or Elantra, but is better equipped than the Civic HF.
     
  5. GaryG

    GaryG Well-Known Member

    When I started looking at the 2012 Focus, I had a loaded dealer ordered Titanium in mind. It was one that was waiting for QC approval before shipping. I decided to take a dealer stock SEL Premium Package unit which is Black on Black that was built on May 5th. It is a sedan which I wanted and I got X-Plan and a $750 Private Cash rebate that ends 5/31/11. My CU gave me a 4.24% APR for 72 months with a $300 loan refund that ends 5/31/11. Timing played a big part in my deciding on the SEL which had no delays with QC. My live at home Son picked the Black on Black Leather SEL because he will be the primary driver going to his second year of College.

    I'll post some pictures when the Focus sits still long enough!

    GaryG
     
  6. FSUspectra

    FSUspectra Practicing true conservatism!

    Awesome... looking forward to pictures! :D
     
  7. GaryG

    GaryG Well-Known Member

    I finally got to drive the new 2012 Ford Focus SEL that I bought for my son to use and took some pics.

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  8. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Wraith:

    The SFE package handled a little less confidently and was probably due to the low RRc tires.

    The SFE and SE had std. SYNC whereas the Titanium had SYNC and MyFord Touch.

    The SFE would do better than the Titanium but not as much as its EPA rating leads you to believe.

    If I were going to pick between the two, the Titanium is truly a first class compact offering more than any other compact on the market but you cannot purchase it with a stick. It provides decent but not anywhere near “Best in Class”. IMHO, the SFE package is more of a game with the EPA test cycle and dynamometer than actual real world fuel economy additions. 75% of the Cruze ECO’s FE increases over the std. Cruze came from its gearing while the Ford Focus SFE had no gearing changes whatsoever. The aero add-ons help the calibrators achieve the 40-mg rating but in my drive of the SFE w/ its 6-speed AT, I did far better with the SE and the Stick. And as you know, neither were optimal due to that ~ 7-second open loop condition upon FAS to pulse transition taking advanced techniques off the table :(

    Regarding the “Best in Class”, my $’s would be chasing the 11 Elantra even though its ride and handling are not in the same league as the 12 Focus. It has too many other “Best in Class” attributes for the $’s.

    Wayne
     

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