The 2011 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid Transcontinental Challenge

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  1. msirach

    msirach Well-Known Member

    Take a guess!

    How many miles will the Sonata Hybrid allow on tank #1?

    Quote this post with your answer.
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  2. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Darrell:

    I do believe you are right! And I wish I had a prize to pass onto you? Maybe we can ask Hyundai for some cool Hyundai Sonata hats to pass on to everyone after this drive is over?

    Mike, thanks so much for doing the calcs on the pips.

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  3. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    Now you've got some target numbers, Wayne. ;)
  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Last update for the night… I stopped in Las Cruces, NM for the night as temps fell to the low 40’s. Hopefully we will get a lot more day time driving knocked out tomorrow and avoid the below 50 degree driving like the plague.

    And she is climbing albeit ever so slowly :(

    Las Cruces, NM – 3,900’ ASL - 59.2 mpg at the 657 mile mark with 7-pips still left.​

    Sean, if only your daughter was a little older, you would be on this drive too!

  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    I saw one of CleanMPG’s old timers saying hello! Hello Dan!

    EVuser this one is going to come down to the wire as far as tank cap is concerned. I am thinking anywhere from 18 to 20 but in all actuality, I really am just guessing at this point. So far, Mike’s Fuel Pip level appears to be tracking linearly but like another very popular hybrid, it could drop the last two pips in 25 miles and then it will be time to fill.

    When I get down to < ¼ of a tank, I will fill the spare fuel container at a station near a stop so when the inevitable happens, I should have a way to get to the next station and we will all know how much the new Sonata Hybrid really holds?

    Darrell, I saw the Continental divide sign on I-10 yesterday with an elevation of 4,065 IIRC. I should have pulled out the camera.

    Something else I noticed yesterday when Vick stepped on the brake while it was booting up. You know how Audi’s have the aggressive DRL LED eye brow garnish nowadays? The Sonata Hybrid’s LED rear taillights have a sideways tear drop shape. Very Korean and a very unique touch. I will try and snap a pic at dusk with someone tapping the brakes to highlight the rear end in a pic.

    And about traffic on I-10 yesterday. What a nightmare! Not in terms of traffic jams but speed and having to control packs of cars and trucks. Why oh why do people travel in packs? 1/3 of a mile between groups and then 5 to 10 cars and trucks all packed in a group? Just one guy gets into trouble and it will cascade into a 0 car pileup like we see in the winter or when it is foggy in the Midwest. While weather conditions were nice, I just do not understand it. Why not travel alone with no impediments and an escape route to the front/rear and either side vs. packed side by side in a group at 65 + mph???

    The worst offender of all vehicles encountered was a US Border patrol truck bearing down on my 6 at about 85 + or – 10 mph. I saw him about ½ mile back passing cars and trucks on both the right/left and I am sure if the shoulder was clear, he would have probably been passing on it too! Anyway, I was in the standard RR in the right lane and thought I had better do a lane wag to catch this demons attention. He was still about 1/3 of a mile back when I moved from a RR right to left back to the right again. Nope, he is still barreling in.

    About ¼ mile back, I tapped the emergency’s and there was still no response. About 2 blocks back I did a triple tap of the rear brakes and he finally woke up, slowed down some and then passed on the left. He passed me at over 70 after slowing down! His Police lights were not on so I am not sure why he was moving so fast and erratically?

    Talking about border patrol. There are quite a few on the roads and at checkpoints in both AZ and NM. At one station, they were walking a dog around each car or truck and I saw a guy get busted for something just two cars up ahead and to the right when the dog started barking at the trunk..

    I also saw a team of three on a dirt trail when near and paralleling the US/Mexican border hauling down a dirt trail on what appeared to be a sand buggy of some kind and two ATV’s.

    Of those I have seen on the road, all but the one guy are driving in probably the most controlled manner of all drivers on the road. Steady speeds in the right hand lanes and keeping an eye out. One of them even paced me to the left rear and rear for about a mile or two while possibly doing a plate check? Or maybe he was interested in the Sonata hybrid ;) I waved when he finally passed and he waved back with a smile :)

  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    And the proverbial Hyundai trivia question of the day ;)

    Q: Approximately how many Hyundai dealerships are there in the US?

    And an easy one. Since I am in New Mexico, what Hyundai has its “claim to fame” from the state? Think name and you got it ;)

  7. dr61

    dr61 Well-Known Member

    Santa Fe, originally La Villa Real de la Santa Fé de San Francisco de Asís, oldest capital city in the US (1607).
  8. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Dave:

    You got it!

    I was trying to come up with something a bit more interesting regarding the Sante Fe but I only know that it is highly regarded in my circles. I have not personally driven it but will at some point in the future.

    Thanks again and I did not know Sante Fe was the oldest capital city in the US!

  9. CarlD

    CarlD Well-Known Member

    Wow, I just noticed this. I am in SD but heading back to Phoenix today to prepare my mangos, guavas, and other tropical fruit trees for the coming freeze. If I had seen this sooner I would have recommended that you use 94 through Jamul and Campo out of SD in lieu of I-8 as it is slightly longer but yields much higher FE and is much more scenic. Typically in my FEH I get ~34MPG vs ~28MPG to get to I-8 just past the Golden Acorn Casino on 94 vs I-8 the whole way.

    Hyundai sure has come a long way. 15 years ago I sold my '91 LX 5.0 to a Korean family who drove up in a Hyundai that was literally falling apart despite being only 4 years old.
  10. billy

    billy Well-Known Member

    Hi Wayne; As of about 1:30pm CST I assume you are near Hobbs NM headed toward Snyder and Abilene? Anyway, a thorough wind chart examination reveals no tailwinds ahead through north-central TX, unfortunately. Generally winds are light and from the SSE; nothing too significant hopefully.

    Hyundai purchased Kia in 1998. As of last yr Hyundai-Kia motors was considered the world's 4th largest auto maker. The first model overall was the 1968 Cortina, built in cooperation with Ford. Then came the Pony in 1975, which was a big seller in Canada in the early 80's but did not meet California emission standards so was not sold in the US.

    Then of course was the Excel, Sonata, Santa Fe, Tucson, Accent, Elantra, Avante, Getz, Stellar, Dynasty, Starex, Veracruz, Concept Genesis, Equus, Azera and others that are sold in India and elswhere.

    Be sure Wayne, as you usually do, to quickly turn off the ICE with the ignition key the moment you hear & feel final fuel starvation -- -- for easier re-starting once more fuel is put in.

    Sure hope you are enjoying the drive. It is known that Texas prairie Coyotes, dogs, marmets, squirrels, possums and even cougars like the taste of original Pepsi; they are not as fond of diet or de-caffinated. Later, Billy....
  11. msirach

    msirach Well-Known Member

    Hi Billy! Thanks for the info.

    Something that I'm sure you would be interested in about the Sonata Hybrid: The ICE shuts off immediately when the transmission is shifted into neutral AT ANY SPEED.
  12. bestmapman

    bestmapman Fighting untruth and misinformation

    Wow that is a great feature. I wish the prius had that.
  13. EVuser

    EVuser Well-Known Member

    Does Wayne have a solid ETA for the DFW stretch? If I-20 around DFW is anything like I-80 here in the Bay Area there is no really good time but there are some periods that you are better off sleeping. Stop and go battery depletion would be a terrible thing to watch.

    Haven't seen a pic of the leafy forest on the gauge cluster or isn't that a Sonata feature? Does the hybrid also have the A/B trip odometer available as in the std?

    Wayne watch out for the aramdillos, like hitting a bowling ball.:flag:
  14. msirach

    msirach Well-Known Member

    Per phone from Wayne a few minutes ago:

    FCD is at 60.7. He just got done with a 20 mile glide, but now he is into climbing up and going down. It must have been a pretty good day as he treated himself to some XM Radio.

    Lost #6 PIP @ 697.4 and #7 @ 780.4.

    Per my calculations, I had #7 at 775 so he is ahead by 5.4 miles. Whoopee!

    Car is performing very well he is still raving about the comfort. He is going to hit Carlsbad soon and is planning on trying to get to Lamesa, TX.

    It would be tomorrow evening before he hits Dallas/ Ft. Worth area though.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata Transcontinental Challenge

    # PIP LossEstimated MilesActual Miles
    1NA311.5 actual
    2NA383.6 actual
    3NA449.6 actual
    4NA543.6 actual
    5621623.2 actual
    6698697.4 actual
    7775780.4 actual
  15. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Well finally a great day. No wind, temps in the low 50’s to low 60’s and some crazy climbs and descents.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata Challenge – Day 3

    Leaving NM

    And entering Texas!

    Tough Climb out of El Paso including 8% grades!​

    Had her up back up to 59.2 when I climbed this darn thing… And the back side culminated with a 70 to 0 mph stop light into the town of Montana :mad: I pulled some heroic level driving through the next two towns to bring her up to 59.3 before the next range to climb where she fell all the way back to 58.7… Working my tail off!!!

    Views were spectacular through TX however :)

  16. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    A horrific Truck/Car crash on US 180 in the middle of nowhere.



    One of the sheriffs on the scene saw me taking pics as I crawled through the maelstrom and 10-miles later pulled me over to ask why? When I showed him pics of the mountains, the car, other stops not shown here, he said you are going to love the Guadalupe Mountain range up ahead and said, "enjoy your drive" :)

  17. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Does anyone know why they call the White Sands Missile Range what they do?

    White Sands of course ;)

    I stopped to pick some up and it really is white. Kind of like sand and chalk mixed together.

    Climbing into the Guadalupe Mountain Range. Like the mirror shot ;)

    Here is where it gets really interesting… Was over 60.5 mpg on the tank when I began climbing this monster. It felt like the Sonata Hybrid was climbing straight up for half an hour!

    But the other side was incredible. The slope was far less of a grade and this is where the 20 + mile glide that Mike mentioned occurred. The aFCD went from 58.7 just before the peak and ended at 60.7 mpg and we are well into 800-miles on this tank already! Coolant temp went from 203 down to 124 before I had my first engine start down the road a piece ;)

    I think it may have been longer than the Glide out of Tonopah during the Great Race – 100 year anniversary reenactment from almost 3-years ago.

    The Excellent results did not end there however… I am catching up in real time so give me a few…

    Last edited: Dec 29, 2010
  18. warthog1984

    warthog1984 Well-Known Member


    Is that tanker what I think it is?

    If so, glad you, the Sonata, and everybody else within range is OK.

    Good luck with the rest of the trip. Here's hoping its 12 pips to the tank reserve.:)
  19. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Remember I mentioned the rear LED taillight shapes earlier today? While I did not take a decent enough pic of them to post yet, I did take the best shot of the trip at dusk just a mile or two from Carlsbad Caverns. I turned on the parking lights, jumped out and ran into a ditch to grab this shot... Lots of cockle burrs (is that how you spell it???) to remove before I got back in the car.

    Notice the aggressive LED DRL brow on the Sonata Hybrid? I like it too :D

    Presenting the 2011 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid

    Sunset over the Guadalupe Mountain Range and the Sonata... I like this pic for some reason ;)

    But today’s best is still to come.

    Last edited: Dec 29, 2010
  20. paulbates

    paulbates Well-Known Member

    Wayne, here is what's ahead Tomorrow morning in west Texas:


    Here is what's ahead of that


    So that's good news. Its better to probably wait it out now and start tomorrow.

    By the way, call my cell when you get up tomorrow and we can go through it then too. I sent you a text this morning saying the same thing


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