The 2011 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid Transcontinental Challenge

Discussion in 'Hyundai' started by xcel, Dec 24, 2010.

  1. bestmapman

    bestmapman Fighting untruth and misinformation

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  2. bestmapman

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  3. SD3_Driver

    SD3_Driver Well-Known Member

    very nice to have a real-world test of this car.... for prospective buyers ;)
     
  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Just passing on some photos via portable Internet. Not a bad Verizon solution if I do say so myself ;)

    Not the challenge unless you call Airline travel on Christmas Day a “Challenge”. The crying baby for 2 + hours across the aisle from me during the Milwaukee to Phoenix flight was numbing :(

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    My gate at Milwaukee’s Mitchell Field just prior to boarding.

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    My gate across the aisle at Phoenix’s Sky Harbor just minutes ago…​

    Wayne
     
  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Chris:

    I will let you know about the lockup but I suspect as you do, it will be very similar to the TC lockup of the std. AT equipped 2011 Sonata.

    Rokeby, I will be using my SG-II but it is my older one prior to any X-Gauge capability. In any case, there is no time to discover the good stuff but I will be using my standards to see what is available to us.

    And I am very interested in what the Sonata has to offer as well given nobody including myself really knows???

    Jud, your elevation profiles are just scary until Dallas anyway!

    Well, they are boarding so I had better pack all of this electronic gear up and get moving.

    Good Luck

    Wayne
     
  6. vickh

    vickh Member

    plz. let me know when you're "really back" in AZ....


    although they advertised a GLS sonata for 17.8k w/ rebates today, so i might just "settle". i'm a little nervous about buying a 1st gen. hybrid.

    wonder what the real hybrid premium will be on these next month?? MSRP are pretty close
     
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  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Just loaded her up with my gear including SG-II, Camera, foodstuffs, PC, Wi-Fi Connection, Emergency gear, suitcase and backpack. And it is raining like crazy in what I thought was supposed to be sunny California? At least that is what the song always told me ;)

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    Our trusted steed just minutes ago in a downpour.​

    Wayne
     
  8. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Vick:

    Check your PM and maybe we can meet along the Interstate on my way through on possibly the 27th?

    Wayne
     
  9. Ophbalance

    Ophbalance Administrator Staff Member

    I hope the crap being dumped on the east coast doesn't affect ya'll too much. The state of NC might as well be shut down for the amount of snow that we've gotten, but I don't think you're coming that far north.
     
  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Boy do I hate rain…

    Stayed outside of San Diego last night/this morning but here is the first drive in 54 to 55 degree temps, moderate to medium rain (intermittent wipers were not enough to keep the windscreen clear) and 0 elevation change.

    First measured drive…

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    I will need to do at least 10% better than this if we are going to make it ;)

    SG-II reads way low from the iFCD in the car so I hope the i and aFCD are close to actual. And Hyundai has made some very nice upgrades to the hybrid drivetrain transitions and actions as I knew they would. More on that later as I had better get moving.

    I have to find an inverter and snap some pics near the coast somewhere as it has finally stopped raining although it is still a bit cool.

    Wayne
     
  11. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Ophbalance:

    I will be a bit south but temps across the entire country are not conducive… We’ll see how she does anyway ;)

    Wayne
     
  12. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    She’s on the coast. Probably not the most scenic but it’s inside a neighborhood and I thought the backdrop was appropriate for my short time in the Mission Beach area.

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    I refueled her to drive around the area and first click occurred at 7.2 gallons. Top off occurred at 12.4 so maybe the beauty has more than meets the eye? I hope so as I am going to need it ;)

    I Rain-X’ed the windows, pressed up the tires, picked up a 150 W Inverter from a local Radio Shack and am powering up the Laptop as I type.

    I will be doing a McDonalds stop in a few as well . I can see Tarabell’s eyes rolling into the back of her head as soon as that happens :rolleyes:

    And back to business… The US consumes 137 Billion gallons of gasoline (light duty fleet mostly) each year and if everyone where driving a Sonata Hybrid vs. everything else, how many gallons could be saved?

    Answer on next update but use 21.5 mpg for the current light duty fleet and do the math. The amount the Sonata hybrid could save the US is staggering!

    Wayne
     
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  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Along with the Hyundai Sonata Hybrid Challenge, how about a Pepsi Challenge to go along with it :confused:

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    The Pepsi Challenge.

    And yeah, there are only 7 cans in the glove box, not 8. I was looking at a 3" screen when I was learning to count :D

    Not only can I not believe a case would fit securely up front, but I put this goofy video together while sitting in a McDonald's. Video was taken in the McDonald's parking lot about 30-minutes ago.

    Wayne
     
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  14. ALS

    ALS Super Moderator Staff Member

    Wayne,

    I hope you're planning on recycling all those empty aluminum cans at the end of your trip. :p

    Al
     
  15. msirach

    msirach Well-Known Member

    I just talked with Wayne and he is at a gas station for his final/First fill.

    Hyundai has done an outstanding job fixing the small negatives from the review. One example he used is the transition from ICE to EV and reverse is now seamless.
    One thing that he noticed though is the instantaneous mpg reading is pegged at ONLY 50 mpg. The ceiling is set too low.
     
  16. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Last update before hitting it. It is time to put up or shut up. Temp is currently 62 degrees and I have a light 5-mph or so tailwind to begin the trek east. Actually far better conditions then last night!

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    Right front corner down – Left rear corner up – time to fill.

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    In less than 5-minutes, the Sonata Hybrid is off! I am excited, nervous and smiling like a kid at Christmas all at the same time and I cannot wait to begin the climb over the Sierra’s or whatever they are called down here???

    Wayne
     
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  17. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    Just spoke to Wayne.
    A few notes from the road.

    The trans is holding onto 6th (overdrive) down to 38mph. Shifting is so smooth it's difficult to know the exact gear in use.

    If you shift to N, the ICE shuts down right away. Hyundai did a fantastic job with this latest powertrain revision.

    Negative - The SGii is led astray by some of the powertrain modes. Just as it didn't understand BMW's lean burn in the 335d last year.

    Negative - The instananeous FE bar pegs at 50mpg - just as it does on any 2011 Sonata. That range is too narrow for use on the hybrid and it prevents drivers from knowing the exact FE number when you're beyond 50mpg.

    The engine runs at 86% load until the pack is near full and then jumps to EV at 55mph. It does a great job of keeping the pack full and allowing EV glides at highway speeds.

    He's climbing the mountains now. At 7 miles out, climbing maybe 500 feet, he's at roughly 56mpg (varying wildly with up and down grades, as expected), and SoC is higher than when he left.

    Note to Earthling (Harry) - Wayne spied one of those the BMW police bikes on duty in Mission Beach. :)
     
  18. msirach

    msirach Well-Known Member

    Wayne is now 20 miles out. Just made the climb past a 2000' elevation town sign and fcd is at 40.1mpg. The climb has been a killer. Weather looks favorable for tonight and tomorrow. Tuscon is the target for tonight.
     
  19. msirach

    msirach Well-Known Member

    He is at the 50 mile mark on the leg 1 map and the fcd is at 40mpg. This is after a 4200' climb though. After another short climb to 4300', he has a 20+mile glide back down near sea level. Big new was that it took the glide to 78 mph. It doesn't have a low ceiling in the 40's like a Gen III Prius.
     
  20. Earthling

    Earthling Trying to be kind to Mother Earth

    One very nice thing about the BMW R1200RT is the cruise control. On our review ride, Wayne wondered what strange hand-signals I was doing with my right hand. I was just showing off the cruise control!

    I liked those shots of the Phoenix Skyharbor Airport. I'm hoping to spend my winters in Arizona after I retire. My twin brother lives in Phoenix.

    Good luck, Wayne, and let us in on some of your advanced methods.

    Harry
     

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