Kia Reliability

Discussion in 'Kia' started by chilimac02, Nov 2, 2010.

  1. Xringer

    Xringer Older Member

    Found out the price of a KIA Rio with ISG was going to be about the same as the new Prius C,
    so we decided to skip the Rio.. Our Prius C2 is on it's way. Might be here next week.

    One local KIA dealer just informed me, the new Rios w/ ISG will be here at the end of this month.
  2. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

  3. Xringer

    Xringer Older Member

    Thanks, but it's not going to be much fun for me..
    Since my wife doesn't like it when I re-adjust her mirrors, steering wheel, seat and radio stations.. ;)
  4. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    Ah. I know how that is. I don't play with the radio (other than to turn it off) and I've gotten relatively adept at returning the mirrors, seat, and steering wheel to their original positions.
  5. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I don't mess with her mirrors,seat, wheel, anything. It's safer that way.
  6. Xringer

    Xringer Older Member

    Ya know, The new Prius V has about the same cargo space as my Ford Escape
    (which might have pretty good trade-in value/low miles). I'm just sayin...:D

    Anyways, we are still keeping the Rio in mind, just in case our deal for the C2 fails to materialize.
  7. Ophbalance

    Ophbalance Administrator Staff Member

    For whom? ;).
  8. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    I'm afraid I mostly can't put that idea into practice because she's 5'6" and I'm 6'5".
  9. 50 mpg by 2012

    50 mpg by 2012 Well-Known Member

    I do not know if this will help becauase it is based on 3 to 6 year old UK extended repair warranty data ... including frequency and cost of repair.

    Kia ranks in the top 5 out of 35 OEMs.

    According to Warranty Direct, Honda, Suzuki, Toyota, and Ford make up the top 4 in the UK.

    It will allow search by make & model. However, there is no specific data on the Rio for the period.

    Has anyone seen anything like this for the US???
  10. WriConsult

    WriConsult Super Moderator

    WOW, I hadn't seen that reliability data before. Looks GREAT! I'd take their repair cost aspect of their data with a grain of salt though, since parts costs (especially for European makes) may be wildly different in the UK vs the US.

    IMO, all of the publicly available reliability data for the US is substantially flawed:
    • Consumer Reports has the largest database (nearly 2M subscribers per year reply to their survey). But records of repair incidence are highly subjective, with the criteria being "repairs that YOU [the subscriber] consider serious" in terms of cost, safety or downtime. I consider their data to be the best available, but I still don't fully trust it.. Owners who are especially loyal to their cars (Hi VW!) may be more likely to gloss over and not report problems, and I don't think the criteria effectively take repair costs into account.
    • JD Power's "long term" reliability survey only goes out to 3 years. So basically meaningless. Good reflection of the number of initial bugs and recalls that need to be worked out, but not very indicative of true long term reliability.
    • Edmunds and a number of other sources use data from Identifix, which I think is supposed to reflect warranty claims like the UK data above. But after looking at a lot of their data, I don't see much correlation with reality.
    • was designed specifically to address some of the above flaws, and tries to be more objective. But their sample size is pretty small, and although they do collect repair cost data it's spotty and anecdotal, with no attempt made to predict average repair costs by make or model.
  11. jcp123

    jcp123 Caliente!

    I have so far been disappointed with our Rio's reliability, but it's the old bodystyle, not the new. Still, ours had to have been one of the last of the generation out of the factory, so you would think all the bugs should have been ironed out by then.

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