New Ultra-Gauge: First Impressions, Quick Hits, and quick comparisons to ScanGauge-II

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  1. SentraSE-R

    SentraSE-R Pishtaco

    Re: New Ultra-Gauge: First Impressions, Quick Hits, and quick comparisons to ScanGaug

    I use the AVG average mpg for my tank average, resetting it when I fill the tank. I believe you can reset the tank fill by pressing the UP button and holding it, but I do it in two steps. One is pressing MENU to change gauge settings, then resetting all avg mpg and distance. Then I go to wherever the fillup option is to reset the tank fill.
     
  2. wokwithm

    wokwithm Well-Known Member

    Re: New Ultra-Gauge: First Impressions, Quick Hits, and quick comparisons to ScanGaug

    Looks like it's out of stock. Wonder if they will get anymore. Probably closeout or discontinued item.
     
  3. SentraSE-R

    SentraSE-R Pishtaco

    Re: New Ultra-Gauge: First Impressions, Quick Hits, and quick comparisons to ScanGaug

    I heard they'd be shipping by Mar 26. Don't know how reliable that is, though.
     
  4. gdsmit1

    gdsmit1 Well-Known Member

    Re: New Ultra-Gauge: First Impressions, Quick Hits, and quick comparisons to ScanGaug

    Thanks for this thread. I just started trying my hand at increasing my fuel economy. I looked at the ScanGauge, but I can't really justify that price right now. But I can probably justify $60.

    Thanks for all the reviews and comparisons. I'm thinking that since I'm new to all this, the Ultragauge is probably the way to go for me. Maybe I'll get a ScanGauge in the future.
     
  5. 2RR2NV

    2RR2NV Ultimate Newbie

    Re: New Ultra-Gauge: First Impressions, Quick Hits, and quick comparisons to ScanGaug

    same here. can't justify the expense to the "Boss" to get an SGII. UG, otoh, quite possibly.
     
  6. Fat Charlie

    Fat Charlie Spaulding Rally Master

    Re: New Ultra-Gauge: First Impressions, Quick Hits, and quick comparisons to ScanGaug

    I put mine in last night and really like it. Tonight I'm going to shuffle the gauges around and maybe stick it somewhere better than my window. Hopefully Friday I'll have time to install it for real.

    I got it to replace the smartphone app I've been using. The bluetooth isn't always happy about connecting and the bluetooth and GPS eat the phone's battery life. The UG comes back quickly after a restart so I'm quite happy with it.
     
  7. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Re: New Ultra-Gauge: First Impressions, Quick Hits, and quick comparisons to ScanGaug

    Got my Ultragauge today and set it up ready for a run tomorrow. I looked at Scangauge but it was going to cost me the equivalent of 200 dollars in the Uk so I plumped for an imported Ultragauge at less than half the price even after customs duty.
    Looking forward to higher FE now I'll have more info
     
  8. schuylkill

    schuylkill Well-Known Member

    Re: New Ultra-Gauge: First Impressions, Quick Hits, and quick comparisons to ScanGaug

    When you say doesn't change do you mean the impg guage doesn't indicate when the car is in Dfco? If I recall open loop is displayed for both N and in gear coasting, but much higher impg numbers are displayed gliding in N. Is it agreed, however, that this report is misleading and that with ICE on better results are achieved gliding in gear? On the other hand I think I saw it posted by PaleMelanesian that he generally glides in N and it's hard to argue with his results. Is this true Pale One? Trying to step up my results before the cooler temps get here adding another variable.
     
  9. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Re: New Ultra-Gauge: First Impressions, Quick Hits, and quick comparisons to ScanGaug

    I've been using my UltraGauge for a little while now and am finding that most of the time, gliding in N is giving me better results than in-gear coasting. I still use some in-gear coasting, particularly when I am going down steeper hills to avoid the need to use the brakes. It seems to me that unless you want to slow down or maintain speed, coasting in N is the way to go. I've found a stretch of road on the way home where I used to in gear coast a couple of times for 0.3 miles where I can do the 2 coasts in N for a total of about 2 miles!
     
  10. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    Re: New Ultra-Gauge: First Impressions, Quick Hits, and quick comparisons to ScanGaug

    He coasts in neutral with the engine running in his Odyssey. In the Civic, if he isn't using the engine he's in neutral with the engine off -- I do the same in both my vehicles. The Insight has deceleration fuel cut but my Elantra doesn't.
     
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2011
  11. Jaquimo

    Jaquimo New Member

    Re: New Ultra-Gauge: First Impressions, Quick Hits, and quick comparisons to ScanGaug

    The UltraGauge is currently available in the EM (English/Metric) as well as the Classic (US) models.

    Is there perhaps someone who is using an UltraGauge with a 2004-2009 Prius? I would like to know if the UltraGauge turns off when gliding/decelerating or when in EV mode.

    Jaquimo
     
  12. buurin

    buurin Little Pig

    Re: New Ultra-Gauge: First Impressions, Quick Hits, and quick comparisons to ScanGaug

    Metric-capable UGEM is $79 before rebate. Still a good bit cheaper than SG2. Both are a whole lot cheaper than DashDyno that I have, which in turn is cheaper than DashDaq.

    I want metric capability because I'm in Canada. lol.

    Interesting that the manuacturer sells replacment cases, LCD screens and brackets.

    A brief comparison of UGEM, SG2, DashDyno and DashDaq. Someone better at writing these shootouts can write a better one and please do.

    Common to all
    standard scantool functionality
    CAN compatible
    Metric units

    UGEM
    $79
    backlighted dot matrix LCD
    6 customizable gauges on each of 3 pages
    fixed OBD2 cable
    suction cup mount
    3-button interface
    operates to -18C/0F

    SG2
    $160 (ya, not our groupbuy price but still...)
    backlighted text dot matrix screen. customizable backlight color
    4 customizable gauges
    custom programmable gauges
    focus on FE tracking
    5-button interface
    detachable OBD2/RJ45 cable
    can be daisy-chained

    DashDyno
    $300 (sale price), $340 (with cables, SD card and RAM QR suction cup mount)
    backlighted graphical LCD dot matrix screen,
    up to 6 customizable gauges can be shown on one screen depending on layout, list mode can capture up to 16
    two trip computers, each with 12 fixed gauges over 3 pages
    8-button interface
    data logging to SD card, 1GB max, w/ Google Earth interface
    passthrough mode for included PC software
    focus on performance tracking
    serial/analog expansion ports, GPS compatible
    user upgradeable firmware
    designed for RAM mount system
    detachable OBD2/RJ45 cable
    operates to -10C/14F

    DashDaq
    $549, $695 with navigation
    4.3" full graphical touch screen
    embedded Linux, customizable UI
    SD card slot, 32GB max
    data logging w/ Google Earth interface
    media player
    serial/analog expansion ports, GPS compatible
    AMPS 4-hole mount
    tries to do it all
    operates to -30C
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2011
  13. SentraSE-R

    SentraSE-R Pishtaco

    Re: New Ultra-Gauge: First Impressions, Quick Hits, and quick comparisons to ScanGaug

    FWIW, I upgraded my v. 1.17 SGII to v. 4.15 with the Performance Monitor upgrade. This adds the ability to quantifiably determine the best acceleration load for, say, 25-40 mph 4th gear pulses at 70%, 83%, and 92% engine load.

    You have to piggyback a second SGII or an UG to the Performance Monitoring SGII. Monitor fuel usage in GPH or LHK along with the standard parameters of time, distance, and speed (using the Performance Monitoring SGII). Use the piggybacked SGII or UG to monitor % engine load during the testing. The best acceleration rate uses the least fuel to accelerate to speed.

    Another unappreciated feature of the SGII is its readiness flag monitor. If you've cleared a CEL or MIL, or disconnected your battery, your car will fail smog testing until the ECU's drive cycle readiness flags are set by completion of the drive cycles. SG tells you if they're ready. UG doesn't.
     
  14. shadescape

    shadescape Banned

    Re: New Ultra-Gauge: First Impressions, Quick Hits, and quick comparisons to ScanGaug

    update-
    UGEM has been working perfectly

    replaceable parts you list- smart of them- you can scratch the screen, break the plastic bracket, or break the case-

    UGEM comes standard set up as you describe
    BUT- there are 7 pages- and you can put 8 gauges in each page anywhere you want-
    you can have the same gauge in all 7 pages-
    I have some pages with 6 gauges- and some with 8- very nice feature
     
  15. bluetwo

    bluetwo Member

    Re: New Ultra-Gauge: First Impressions, Quick Hits, and quick comparisons to ScanGaug

    Can it show MPH? That's all I need to know... assuming it'll do everything else that a ScanGuageII will do...
     
  16. GrnHrnt

    GrnHrnt Well-Known Member

    Re: New Ultra-Gauge: First Impressions, Quick Hits, and quick comparisons to ScanGaug

    Yes it does.
     

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