Lowest electric bill ever.

Discussion in 'Emissions' started by southerncannuck, Apr 30, 2010.

  1. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    Excellent! I have a GE heatpump heater. No idea how much it's actually saving because it's 220V and I don't have any gauge to measure that.
     
  2. jcp123

    jcp123 Caliente!

    Wife was in California for three weeks. My electricity use for the month was half of last year's :D
     
  3. vangonebuy

    vangonebuy Well-Known Member

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    Hot summer, But no scalding one.
    2 replacement small a/c's (mentioned earlier) and other a/c moved placement
    changes helped this year.
    Hard to judge if there was any real savings due to these changes.
    Or just the cooler weather. Comfort was good.

    YTD report. I've consumed 422 kWh's less from last year. Or over $100 savings.:D
    Expect reduction to continue next bill also.
    Estimate about 5700-5800 kWh for the year. Best since 2009.

    A good note, Due to reduced usage across the grid in summer peak.
    And a new power provider takeover.
    Electric rates went down to $ .21 a kWh this bill cycle.
    This is a big improvement.
     
  4. jcp123

    jcp123 Caliente!

    21 cents?! I pay under 10 cents!!
     
  5. alvaro84

    alvaro84 Homura-chan's selfishness

    A daytime kwh is ~17 cents here, 'controlled' is 10.6.
     
  6. ALS

    ALS Super Moderator Staff Member

    Lucky you mine has gone up from 11 to 13.3 cents per KwH with all the coal fired plants closing in the state. That is the all included price with taxes and fees.

    Total gross bill divided by KwH's used.

    Last Aug 13, I was ave 74.3 KwH per day $254.86, 30 days billed. $8.495 per day
    This months bill is showing 71.4 KwH per day $333.25, 35 days billed $9.52 per day. :(

    I look at the rate increases I've seen with my electric, gas, water and sewage and I'm thankful that I have had the foresight to make the major efficiency changes over the last ten years. :)
     
  7. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    The marginal rate (price per additional kw-hr) is more interesting. That's about 12¢/kw-hr here. Total bill divided by usage varies with usage; it would be infinite if one's usage were (hypothetically) zero for a billing period. That assumes your bill, like mine, is calculated as a classic y=mx+b equation, where "m" is rate, "x" is usage, and "b" is a fixed charge.
     
  8. jcp123

    jcp123 Caliente!

    Should be a pleasantly low bill...since we spent a week away from home with the ac not working here :D
     
  9. ALS

    ALS Super Moderator Staff Member

    Fixed a big air leak in the house last night. I had bought a Mail Cage for my mail slot which was an experience in itself trying to find one in the U.S., NOT. :rolleyes:

    Hit Amazon and the businesses in England who carry them wouldn't ship to the U.S..

    I then hit Ebay and the same business on Amazon who wouldn't ship to the U.S. sold me the cage cheaper and shipped to the U.S. $31

    So I started with this

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    And as you can see in this Internet picture if the mail person doesn't push the mail all the way through, the mail slot door can be left open to the cold or heat depending on the season.

    I have come home to the junk mail half in half out and outside slot door wide open.
    It's even worse when they jam the door up and it sticks open and doesn't drop to cover the opening. They make a magnetic flap you can put on the inside that would fix this problem but it doesn't solve the half in half out mail situation.

    So we get to installing the mail cage on the inside of the door. The mail cages were originally intended to keep the dog from chewing up the mail when it hit the floor.

    Like in this video.

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    I bought one of these as the framework for what I wanted.

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    I then insulated it using self sticking duct insulation, 3/8 inch window strip insulation and white duct tape to seal the seams. Because of the six panel door had some gaps I used the 3/8 window seal to fill the openings from the inside. I ran the window insulation along the frame edges for a tight cage-door seal.

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    It isn't real pretty but from last night until this morning the furnace has hardly kick on.

    When I was putting it together the furnace seemed to be kicking on every half hour. Once it was on the door the furnace kicked on once between 8:00pm and 11:00 pm. Between 7:00 and 8:30 this morning the furnace also only kicked on once. :)

    This ugly box seams to be doing what I hoped it would do, so far. Up side is it has also made the house a little more secure by keeping anyone from reaching through the mail slot and unlocking the door.

    The true test will be with the next two or three gas bills.
     
  10. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Nice. Who cares if it's ugly ? It works.
     
  11. alvaro84

    alvaro84 Homura-chan's selfishness

    If I see that huge *gap* that used to be on the door I feel cold :eek:

    The new box is a much more relaxing sight.
     
  12. vangonebuy

    vangonebuy Well-Known Member

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    2014 is complete.
    Under 6k kWh was my goal.
    5898 was my total. A 4.2% reduction over last year of 6161kWh.
    The lowest since 2009.
    I hoped for lower still.
    Heating pumps came on earlier this fall.


    Electric rates have risen again. Back up to $.226 a kWh.
    A new rate request is also in the works.
    Shortfalls in their revenue. Hope I helped with that a bit.


    Looks like bigger air sealing projects will be needed to reduce waste much further.
    As I try to reduce winter heat losses.

    Solar salesmen are here. Looking for new projects.
    Their 1st question is always the same.
    WHAT IS YOUR ELECTRIC BILL EACH MONTH?
    When I tell them about $100, They aren't interested. At all......! :confused:

    I want to add solar, But only when lowers my costs. And NO leasing.
    Solar with micro inverters maybe.
     
  13. jcp123

    jcp123 Caliente!

    I had my highest bill ever in December...$267. Our heater was out, and in came two space heaters to fill in the gap. Ouch!
     
  14. ALS

    ALS Super Moderator Staff Member

    This months bill I used 16 therms less than last year and it was two degrees colder last month over the same period last year. :)

    16 / 168 = .09524 or roughly a 9.5% savings. That box over the mail slot will pay for itself in only three months which is no small savings.
     
  15. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    Yeah, mine was bad. Had a family member living in the garage for the last few months. Earlier it was not so bad but in the cold of winter... TWO space heaters running in there PLUS the main house heater.

    Even so, it was almost as high as before we got the new high efficiency central system, which shows the benefit. We're saving that much over the old system when we don't have guests.
     
  16. vangonebuy

    vangonebuy Well-Known Member

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    February bill is in.
    January was running fine. But by Feb 1st. usage was climbing upward……20 kWh per day.
    Couldn't figure out why.
    But, soon my boiler was on the fritz.
    Boiler was going on and off really fast. Circulator never shut off, and finally burned out.
    Fixed and usage was going back down. But too late for Feb totals.

    Cold winter isn't helping either. 15kWh avg. daily since the repair.


    Changed the usage graph. a bit more useful I think.
    Also picked up a LG washing machine. A deal I couldn't pass on. 1/2 price.
    Don't think it's using much less electric. Too early to tell.

    Utility Co. announced a 12% increase over next 3 years. Glad I'm trying to cut what I can.
    It will be more than a Quarter a kWh.
     
  17. ALS

    ALS Super Moderator Staff Member

    Just paid the gas bill for February WOO HOO loving the changes already. The solid door I put on between the kitchen and game room and mail slot box are real game changers as they say. Dropped from 201 Therms in 2014 over 28 days vs 168 therms over 31 days for 2015.
    7.17 Therms per day vs 5.42 per day. :D

    The worst part I can not even imagine what the utility bills were for the little old lady who owned the house before me. Her son told me at the closing his mom could never get warm in the house. Anyone want to see the list of things they did that caused this problem and the minimal work and costs involved to correct the situation?
     
  18. ALS

    ALS Super Moderator Staff Member

    I just got the monthly news letter from my place in Naples. The building manager just informed the owners that the electrical contractor has finished up installing new LED light fixtures on all fourteen floors of the building. :D The light fixtures above the Unit doorways (104) will have their CFL's replaced with LED's by the end of next week

    I would love to compare the electric bill of May 2014 to May 2015. :)
     
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2015
  19. waltermlee

    waltermlee Well-Known Member

    My electric usage for the last 12 months (04/03/14 to 04/07/15)
    for my all-electric Townhome(1500 sq.ft) = 6584 kwh


    03/07/2015 04/07/2015 0576
    02/07/2015 03/06/2015 1432 ... my end unit neighbor's electric bill was about 2000 kwh that month...
    01/10/2015 02/06/2015 1171
    12/03/2014 01/09/2015 0848
    10/31/2014 12/03/2014 0478
    10/02/2014 10/31/2014 0269
    09/02/2014 10/02/2014 0282
    08/01/2014 09/02/2014 0332
    07/02/2014 08/01/2014 0349
    06/03/2014 07/02/2014 0321
    05/02/2014 06/03/2014 0267
    04/03/2014 05/02/2014 0259

    it works out to be about 550kwh/month ... not one of my better years...
     
  20. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

    ItsNotAboutTheMoney Super Moderator Staff Member

    Long time no post...

    Electricity up to 05/07/2015

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    Column1Column2Column3Column4Column5Column6Column7Column8Column9Column10Column11Column12Column13Column14Column15Column16Column17Column18Column19Column20
    20072008+/-2009+/-2010+/-2011+/-2012+/-2013+/-2014+/-2015+/-
    129.6829.40-0.2825.07-4.3324.14-0.9321.38-2.7618.10-3.2815.14-2.9715.590.4514.32-1.26
    233.2126.52-6.7023.50-3.0222.06-1.4419.84-2.2317.14-2.7013.55-3.5916.282.7213.52-2.76
    326.5825.29-1.2922.63-2.6720.03-2.5919.83-0.2016.03-3.8013.52-2.5215.291.7713.03-2.26
    430.3723.32-7.0519.93-3.3919.24-0.6917.40-1.8415.13-2.2711.63-3.5013.932.3112.03-1.90
    525.9020.83-5.0718.79-2.0418.16-0.6417.24-0.9113.77-3.4711.97-1.8113.471.50
    631.3026.30-5.0021.79-4.5121.39-0.4120.03-1.3517.06-2.9715.48-1.5815.560.08
    734.0328.63-5.4025.03-3.6027.072.0428.581.5121.07-7.5118.83-2.2319.000.17
    832.6522.16-10.4919.59-2.5624.584.9823.94-0.6417.13-6.8015.82-1.3218.943.12
    932.6321.76-10.8721.38-0.3820.14-1.2418.62-1.5214.09-4.5312.93-1.1713.410.49
    1025.9022.07-3.8321.72-0.3419.17-2.5518.42-0.7513.75-4.6712.45-1.3012.480.03
    1131.5724.18-7.3823.53-0.6521.84-1.6920.10-1.7415.42-4.6814.39-1.0314.820.43
    1234.3026.40-7.9023.03-3.3722.37-0.6620.45-1.9117.16-3.3016.06-1.1014.87-1.19


    It became a bit depressing in 2014 as my electricity consumption (house only) jumped by 1kWh/day. I think like other people my furnace had an issue so was running harder in the cold winter, but it didn't explain everything.

    Whatever it was, it now seems that usage is falling back to around where it was in 2013. It should now drop about 0.9kWh more since our old (14 1/2 years!) bearded dragon died last Saturday night, and his terrarium had a 50W + 12W bulbs. However, my wife's son broke up with his long-time girlfriend so now he'll probably be around the house more, and that'll raise usage. Plus we may have another member of the household for a few months, which'll further raise usage.

    Virtual Leaf had rolled backwards but is now rolling forwards again to 29.46 miles, about 1 mile back from where it reached in at the end of 2013.
     
    Last edited: May 16, 2015

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