Discussion in 'Honda Hybrids' started by psyshack, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk 2010 Prius (CAN Touring) Staff Member

    I've never heard of a dealership doing bodywork. Obviously they supply replacement parts, but painting and bodywork is another line of work. Also, the body shops will sometimes sub to others for things like suspension component replacement, wheel alignments, etc.
  2. psyshack

    psyshack He who posts articles

    I do not buy into any of this ADHD crap at all. I was a test mule for such worthless social and educational crap as a child in the 60's. All it adds up to is a excuse. Period!!!! And a polite way of telling folks they are this and that when we know in our belly how to do better in our own way. Or we cop out. Or are under diagnosed to be politically correct.

    She is not LD, or ADHD or any of the other fluff carp. I on the other hand, am the text book. As is one of our daughters. <<<<< Not of my loin.

    I for the life of me can not and will never understand why words like stupid, ignorant or dumb ass can't be used anymore in America to state a fact or action. We must love the smell of a human bung hole,,, because the mission is to kiss it!
  3. psyshack

    psyshack He who posts articles

    I would never have a so called dealer do any body work. I would have prefer'd that the dealer had been the ones pulling the engine/transmission and front suspension. But seeing I have little no no faith anymore in the American work force PERIOD! I would have prefered the car being shipped back to Japan for repair. At least they seem to care a tad there about work ethics and finished product. This car was perfect being a J-Vin other than the crap CVT transmission. Of which the engineers should be made to dive on a sword over. Udder crap the CVT is. I even offered to pay shipping outside of my ins. contract to have it repaired in Japan. But the ins. company balked like the twisted queens they are even after as tax payers there whole system of rip off was paid for by the tax payer.
  4. Chuck

    Chuck just the messenger

    I think even a professional would refrain from making an online diagnosis.

    Jeff, while not officially diagnosed, did you know one of the moderators has a 99.9% chance of having Type II ADHD? That comes as a complete suprize, but it's from a friend that has successfully dealt with it and the description of people with it is strikingly like the things I'm dealing with.

    I know there is a lot in psycharity (sp) that is BS, but not ALL of it.

    This is probably what might be called the Dr Laura approach. ;)

    Does that mean I won't take responsibility for my actions? NO!!!!!

    What it does mean is I'll do what I can to be a better person for the benefit of myself and others.

    I won't attempt to assess the reason your wife's driving record, Jeff - it's not my place or anyone else on the forum for numerous reasons. Only you or someone else close can determine if it's simple careless, or if it's a behavior that happens outside of driving and needs investigation....both are possibilities.

    I'll turn the mention of Type II ADHD on myself....again, I don't have license to misbehave and be a burden to others....agree with you on that. Having said that, I need to understand my shortcomings, tendancies, etc....just like I'd fix a wheel alignment problem, etc.

    What one or more members were attempting to say is the fender benders are happening and a finger needs to be put on it - maybe be carelessness - maybe be more....their intentions were well.
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2009
  5. St. Mushroom

    St. Mushroom doesn't wash his car.

    This is a tangent, but another disease that has been linked to auto accident rates is sleep apnea:


    This one's pretty scary, the vast majority of cases aren't aware that they even have the disease, and it's been estimated that sleep disorders impact 40 million Americans...

  6. raveneon

    raveneon Well-Known Member

    Really? I have 2 local dealers that include collision centers. One is a Chevy/Cadillac and the other is Ford/Mercury. They do the best work around and they are cheaper than the local snooty hot rod auto body place too. Both of them include a lifetime guarantee on any work they perform. I didn't realize that a dealer with a body shop was uncommon.
  7. Ophbalance

    Ophbalance Administrator Staff Member

    Maybe it's more common for Chevy? The Chevy dealer in Pottsville, PA also had a body/collision shop as part of their dealership. I've yet to see a honda, kia, etc (and there are some larger dealers here near Raleigh) have a collision shop.
  8. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk 2010 Prius (CAN Touring) Staff Member

    Maybe it's just uncommon in Canada. I guess if the dealership is big enough, and wants to take it on, it would make for efficient work: all the parts under one roof.

    We actually have an issue right now: our recent T-Bone accident (I've started a thread on it) was handled by an independent body shop. Some suspension parts were replaced, and now we're hearing a noise when the steering is turned left/right. We've gone back to the dealership to get this checked out (it's in their shop right now).

    If the whole thing was done by one party, the dealership, might be less of this hassle.
  9. greenrider

    greenrider Well-Known Member

    If it makes you feel any bettter psy, here's what my wife did to the I2 this morning on the freeway.

    Sideswiped by some idiot woman who changed lanes on I-290 into her and then tried to say "I was in the lane the whole time!" (Of course, she was a useless CPS employee late to work ans weaving through traffic. My wife didn't see if she was on her cell phone). So far $4K in damage without replacing the clear bra that must be removed to blend the paint.

    At least the other driver had insurance though it will be hard to make them pay with no witnesses in a freeway crash. Barely 7,100 miles and 6 months, WTF!!:mad::mad::mad:
  10. psyshack

    psyshack He who posts articles

    The car is done and back home. I have not driven it yet. Would prefer not to.

    The under hood work is fantastic! The skin/body work is par. The gap between the fenders and bumper covers widens from the wheel well to the headlights. Hood to fender seams were better before the bad driving. The wife claims it has a diff. feeling in the steering wheel. Collage educated and can't explain it to me. :eyebrow: She say's there are no squeaks or rattles. But it could have be bee's in the door panels rattling around and she would claim it's just fine, what noise. :rolleyes:

    Bill came in at $10k.

    The rear bumper cover needs work from her backing into a tree. Paint is just scuffed. But it bent the car were the top bracket attaches. Also the curbed front right wheel needs replaced.

    A new car ruined by yet another person that should have never been allowed to drive to start with.
  11. psyshack

    psyshack He who posts articles

    I am very sorry to hear this. The person lieing about the facts should be shot IMHO.

    Talking with the body shop owner and his wife. Who also ruins cars. If it was not for lady drivers he would have to close his shop. All most 70% of his customers are women.
  12. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    Jeff, I hope the car is better than it seems.

    GreenRider, I'm very sorry to hear about your Insight! :ccry:
  13. psyshack

    psyshack He who posts articles

    I drove it in today. it's a pile of junk! The wife yet again ruins another car. And the horrid American labor can't seem to build or fix any thing right the first time.

    Bumper cover does not fit right, hood to fender seams could have been done better by a blind tech. The transmission is not right. It now jerks when cold when you put it in drive. As even engauged and disengauged on me when in D. More road noise than it had before. Steering is biased to the left. Turns easy to the left harder to the right. Dash by the wing window is scratched up. They had to use the transmission interlock release at some point and buggered the plug and around the hole. The heater down duct that puts air to the back seats is loose or knocked off. The cup holders and front tray get hot when the heater is on. when I got into the office this AM I noticed the drivers front wheel wheel well had popped out to the outside edge of the bumper cover. I popped it back in. Just got back from taking it for a drive on the freeway and it popped out again. Can't even set a damn plastic fender well right!

    It had 3 recal's in 55 miles this am. So mpg sucked coming in. I expect more problems in the hybrid area. I haven't worked the A/C. Auto stop in very rough now. Both shutting down and restarting. Before the wreck auto stop was silky smooth. Only a slight hint of labor and the engine shut off. Restart was not even felt. Tach just jumped up and off you went. I did get on it hard this am on a on ramp. There is alot more engine noise / roar. It's just flat out louder. Use to be near silent. The tach still jumps up and hangs close to redline not going anywere even slow because of the crap cvt. But now the engine sounds like a Iron Duke Chevy of years past.

    So the short of the long is,,,, the car is ruined. Complete trash! Wiping ones rear end with 20 dollars bills would have been a better use of money than what the wife cost us with this last bit of driving prowless of hers.
  14. Ophbalance

    Ophbalance Administrator Staff Member

    Is there any change they'll amend any of the work (without extra cost)?
  15. JusBringIt

    JusBringIt Be Inspired

    If I'm paying all that money for the car, it either better be fixed, or I get a new car.

    If it was the other drivers' fault I'd be more determined, not much you can do when it's caused on your side of the block.
  16. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    Sounds like a good car to sell when gas starts to spike. It apparently is functional, just tell the buyer you had it fixed, but seeing it around pisses you off to much to keep it. Heck, point out the slightly increased road noise-just sell it.

    With any kind of luck gas will hit $3, so and you can bail out of it.
    Sell it.
  17. raveneon

    raveneon Well-Known Member

    Take it back again and again until they fix it right. Don't accept it as it is.
  18. Chuck

    Chuck just the messenger


    Sorry about the HCHII being nothing to "just like new" :(
  19. psyshack

    psyshack He who posts articles

    Found out yesterday on the rain that the wiper arms were on backwards. I had to switch them and got drinched.
  20. Tomjones76

    Tomjones76 Well-Known Member

    I'd buy that wife a string of retired police Crown Vics...... good crash performance barring unlikely high-speed rear-end collisions and easy repairs due to body on frame design.
    Plus, she probably wouldn't like them, so no incentive to get a new one......

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