In Florida, ethanol-free gas rare but popular

Discussion in 'In the News' started by PaleMelanesian, Jun 23, 2009.


Would you pay more for ethanol-free gas?

  1. No

    6 vote(s)
  2. $0.05 more

    3 vote(s)
  3. $0.10 more

    3 vote(s)
  4. $0.15 more

    6 vote(s)
  5. $0.20 more

    5 vote(s)
  6. $0.25 more

    5 vote(s)
  1. alvaro84

    alvaro84 Homura-chan's selfishness

    Here we only have E5, not E10, but I don't know about E0 either.
    If we had it, I'd give it a try to see how it works.

    (Oh, but maybe we have, for like 6-7% more? It contains bio-ETBE - maybe instead of ethanol? I've already tried that kind, but I couldn't see any measurable difference in FE. But that 5 percent doesn't sound too much. The difference in energy content is even less.)
  2. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I'm going to guess at a 5-7% increase in MPG , but of course , YMMV.

    Yes, I'm a little jealous as I can't buy ethanol-free gasoline without driving 75 miles.
    For those who can , you should try it.
  3. phlack

    phlack Well-Known Member

    Ok, the price was $.85/gallon higher than the normal 87 octane they had. The non-ethanol was 90 octane, which I'm sure was part of the high increase. Had they had a 87 octane non-ethanol, the price would probably have been a little lower.

    At that price, I can't see it being worth it. But I filled up, in the name of science, so it will be interesting to see the results.

  4. herm

    herm Well-Known Member

    How much was the regular?
  5. rfruth

    rfruth Well-Known Member

  6. herm

    herm Well-Known Member

    Too many here are attached to their MPG records for that, maybe we should concentrate on $ per mile instead.
  7. phlack

    phlack Well-Known Member

    Regular E10 '87 was $3.35
    The E0 '90 was $4.20

    I'm still at 1/2 a tank. So far I'm seeing some decent results from my ScanGuage II. Perhaps about a 8-10% improvement, which is in line with what others are seeing. I don't know if it needs to be recalibrated with this gas or not, but since I'm getting slightly higher results anyway, it might not have to (or maybe slightly)

    I'm noticing my LOD at my key speeds seems slightly lower than what they were on my previous tank. (and this tank still probably had a couple gallons of E10 lingering in the bottom). Lower LOD I'll assume means less gas going to the engine for the same speed?
    For example, usually at 40mph, I need approx 40LOD to maintain that speed. With E0 I'm still accelerating at 40LOD, so I had to ease back down to, say, 38LOD, and that boosted my iMPG a few numbers (in my case, ~60mpg to ~65mpg)

    Further telling was that, when topping off my tank, my fuel readout doesn't lose its first "bar" until maybe 80 miles of suburban driving. I've got it as high as ~110 miles on the highway. Well, on this tank, I managed to lose the first "bar" at ~90 miles...and it was pure suburban highway. Not scientific by any means, but a further indication.

    I actually haven't checked my tank MPG yet, but since I have 1/2 tank left, I'll wait until then.

  8. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    3% more is a gimme. 5% and I will still go for it.

  9. 08EscapeHybrid

    08EscapeHybrid Moderator

    I voted $0.20 more. I get 8 MPG more in my FEH when running ethanol free than I do with E10. My regular station sells 87 octane E0 for $0.10/gal more than 87 octane E10.

    When I visit family in Florida I regularly frequent the E0 station in Daytona Beach. I'll probably have the FEH in Florida in February, I'm excited to see what kind of mileage I'll get on a highway trip.

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