Not to knock dealers as I did in my lst post. My Insight got hijacked for a week or so, and I'm still little cynical as a result. As for comparison, I think I'm still unfairly swayed by the new-car smell of the Insight II, or I'm getting high from the Scotchguard fumes. The Insight is more flexible due to it's hatchback. I also expect that it will experience far fewer recals on the IMA battery than the HCH due to the Insight's lower, and thus cooler, positioning of the IMA battery. Overall, I like the CVT in the Insight better. I have to agree with your assessment of the HCH II CVT after owning one for just under 41K miles now. Even though I've changed to CVT fliud x2 once and x1 again last year, I'm still no entirely sold on it. The Insight II does have improved performance over the HCH II, perhaps b/c of aerodynamics, or just that it's new? There isn't that much of a weight difference between the two, but the Civic feels notably more sluggish. Also, I've taken a mileage hit since putting Nokian WR-G2s on to replace the Dunlops ~4K ago. My mileage with the HCH is running in the low 40s since with the tires ar 45 psi. The Insight's mileage has improved notably since pumping up the tire pressure. It's only got about 650 miles on it but I did manage to steal it away for a drive to work and back (55 miles RT) the other day. I like the ambient lighting prompts in the speedometer, but I'm still getting used to the somewhat busy dash. For whatever reason, I just can't get the seat and wheel positioned as comfortably as my HCH II, which is overall more comfortable for me, at least. As I said, the CVT is definitely improved, and I got surprisingly good mileage experimenting the the 7-speed shifter for a short period. My city mileage was significantly improved with the Insight over my HCH II (47 mpg on a less than 10 mile errand run, from a cold start, in high 50's temps). The tires on the I-II are the same awful Dunlops that came with the HCH. My wife says they are better in the rain than Civic's were, but I'm still skeptical :eyebrow:. My overall mileage on that trip was between 49 and 50 while using the ECO assist and without trying too hard. In my experience, the ECO assist's modification of the operating perameters and the speedometer plays an intergal role in the mpg gains. It handles well like a typical Honda, but it's obviously not an S2000. Compared to your Mazda 3, I'm sure either would be lacking in performance and handling. I've never owned a higher-performing vehicle, so I've got no point of comparison. Since it is my wife's daily driver, I haven't gotten to drive it all that much yet. Was it worth paying closer to sticker than invoice? Hard to say. We were over the barrel due to the lease, otherwise I'm never usually the first guy on the block with the new toy simply because I'm not willing to pay the premium. The Insight wins in stop/go and congested driving. Mileage comparisons are hard b/c of the new tires on the Civic, but I still think the Insight wins even when compared to the original Dunlops on the HCH. If a prospective buyer could get a deal like yours at a few hundred $$ over invoice I'd encourage them to consider it. Depending on a buyer's specific needs or wants, the HCH is also a great contender. If I have any "insights" as I drive the car more, I'll post them.