All-new Honda Insight- starts under $20,000

Discussion in 'Honda Hybrids' started by xcel, Mar 10, 2009.

  1. ksstathead

    ksstathead Moderator

    Can't do without AC here. Well, maybe I could, but I may as well drive a vespa; noone would ride with me.

    3460 seems alot for IMA, but that includes batteries and related hybrid specific programming and misc, so I understand it.

    Think I'd look at the Prius II unless the HI II is discounted.
     
  2. philmcneal

    philmcneal Has it been 10 years? Wow

    at this rate its just better to go used hybrid or learn how to hypermile a 5spd used car, dissapointed!

    If it was up to me the honda civic 5spd hybrid is the beauty gem, but those are rare ;( and the battery packs on those tend to go out quicker due to abuse of the assist when in higher gear.

    Plus lean burn whoo! Go nOx
     
  3. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    Mr. Bill, I'm going to answer your question in a sideways fashion. Toyota has managed to get the upcharge for HSD down to under $2000 and are approaching (if not already at) $1500 for the newest iteration in the Prius III.

    IMA is considerably simpler in implementation and uses a smaller battery. In light of this, $3,640 seems excessive for its addition.
     
  4. Indigo

    Indigo Witch with wry sense of humor

    The Honda Fit goes for $17k. You're not going to get a hybrid for the same price as a Fit.
     
  5. msantos

    msantos Eco Accelerometrist

    Indeed, and adding to what Sean said I would not even compare the IMA in the upcoming Insight with the implementation on the HCH-II either. For my taste alone, there are too many things that are either not present or simply scaled back in terms of manufacturing, general sophistication and specific capability.
    ... and we're not yet mentioning assembly quality and materials either. From looking and inspecting the HI-II in person, the HCH-II is head and shoulders above the Insight in terms of class, materials and fit and finish.

    In fact, in my area at least there will be people who will use their deposits to purchase the HCH-II instead of the HI-II - if comes out at this price.

    Cheers;

    MSantos
     
  6. GreenVTEC

    GreenVTEC Well-Known Member

    That's a stretch.

    Even if it is $2000 then what Toyota does is place the system in a well optioned version of every vehicle. In the end it may be a bit more than a "comparable" trim but it's still well beyond the base.


    Highlander Base: $26,000
    Highlander Hybrid: $35,000

    Camry Base: $19,000
    Camry Hybrid: $26,000

    Matrix Base: $16,000
    Prius Base: $22,000

    And this doesn't even include the alternatives among cheaper automakers. You could get a very nicely loaded Suzuki hatch for $7000 less than a comparable Prius. That's quite alot of gas money. Or you could get a loaded Jetta for $4000 less than the Camry.
     
  7. GreenVTEC

    GreenVTEC Well-Known Member

    Finally some clear thinking!

    I really question anyone who thinks Honda was about to attack it's own top selling Fit market by pricing this near the Fit.
     
  8. RedPriusII

    RedPriusII Active Member

    Great coverage, CMPG. Thanks much.
     
  9. Texashchman

    Texashchman Well-Known Member

    I still have one of those:D and over 115,000 miles and the battery is still going strong. kevin
     
  10. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

  11. Hook401

    Hook401 Member

    I went to the waverly dealership today to see if we can expect to see our "Canadian version" any sooner than the April date .... As far as they knew the dates have not changed .... but with this price ... I 'Dunno just with straight exchange with the US dollar it's $29,700 CDN for the EX ... OUCH !

    --->Kevin
    The Civic is starting to look like a better deal.
     
  12. Kacey Green

    Kacey Green Well-Known Member

    I found out here :eek:

    We don't put crap on cars with deposits that customers didn't ask for. Ours without a deposit will most likely have splash guards and window tint.
     
  13. Kacey Green

    Kacey Green Well-Known Member

    Honda doesn't do rebates, are you sure its not an incentive?
     
  14. msirach

    msirach Well-Known Member

    Was your sales manager at a Honda meeting today?
    The sales manager at Ike's Honda at Marion, IL and the sales manager Bluegrass Honda at Paducah, KY were both at a Honda meeting today. I was the one that informed them that the price had been released via Honda at CleanMPG.com. They were surprised to say the least.

     
  15. Kacey Green

    Kacey Green Well-Known Member

    Everyone was present, hmm
     
  16. msantos

    msantos Eco Accelerometrist

    Hi Kevin;

    I've spoken to a few future HI-II owners in the Winnipeg area as well as some of the staff at the Birchwood Honda shortly after I arrived from the NAIAS auto show in Detroit and one of the things we all agreed on, is that the base car needs to retail well under $22K CND in order to be a viable option for the masses. To be more specific, The EX needs to retail a good $1500-$2500 below the Civic Hybrid given the differences in technology, class and appointments.

    I guess we'll see what ends-up happening on the pricing front in Canada but given the US prices I am a bit concerned too.

    Cheers;

    MSantos
     
  17. Indigo

    Indigo Witch with wry sense of humor

    I'd be lining up to by an Insight-II if I hadn't just bought a Scion xD 7 months ago. I just don't see what all thhe griping is about. The Prius-III is going to be nearly $30k and the TCH is about $28k. It's not like Toyota's interested in making hybrids that the average Joe can afford. Honda had to make a few comprimises to make the Insight-II the price it is. I think it's a good plan. After all, it's about $2,500 more than a Fit but gets 14 MPG more in-city. It's also nearly $10k less than the Prius. It's $8k less than the TCH but gets the same in-city mileage. And yet, all I hear is gripe, gripe, gripe, gripe. Gimmie a break. If the Insight-II is still around in 4 years, I'll trade my Scion for one of those (assuming it's not Insight-III or Hybrid Fit being offered by then).
     
  18. -mr. bill

    -mr. bill Senior Member

    Comparably Equippped
    (Sorry, no Leather Steering Wheel or Smart Key System for the LE. No Chrome Exhaust Tip for the Hybrid)

    Code:
    Camry LE     $22,370
                 $   650 Add VSC + TRAC
                 $   251 Cargo Net ($51 + $200 dealer install est)
                      [COLOR="Red"]NA Leather Steering Wheel Cover[/COLOR]
                      [COLOR="Red"]NA Smart Key System[/COLOR]
                 -------
                 [B]$23,271[/B]
    
    Camry Hybrid $26,870
                      [COLOR="Red"]NA Chrome Exhaust Tip[/COLOR]
                -$   500 (Climate Control Delete)
                 -------
                 [B]$26,370[/B]
    
    LE->Hybrid   [B]$ 3,099[/B]
    

    -mr. bill
     
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2009
  19. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    Is there some reason you have ignored the link I posted above with this in it?

     
  20. -mr. bill

    -mr. bill Senior Member

    1. KISS
    2. It's pretty easy to get a "comparably equipped" comparison between the LE verus Hybrid.
    3. You *can't* even come close to "comparably equipped" XLE versus Hybrid.
    4. If you attempt to get "somewhat close" the comparison is worse.
    5. MSRP != Invoice

    -mr. bill
     

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