Re: I may not be a true hypermiler and I'm not that Green either. Caution - Thought A The oil is there for the taking. There are always problems with getting anything of value. If we hate giving our money to the middle-easterners we can stop. We could likely do it right now without drilling a single well, but it would cost more. It is cheaper and easier to keep buying it from them. Let them kill their own trees. Politically, we don't really care what they do with our money because if we did we would be willing to pay the price to stop giving it to them. The truth is we are not. Many state governments are now considering taxing you per mile instead of per gallon. Our cars are getting better mileage and their revenues are down. Amazingly, some people are even driving less. They will try to get your money either way. Oregon is only the latest. - And its coming to a state near you. :thumbs_up: (They will probably keep the gas tax too, just in case). I believe that they know of several untapped large reserves that nobody is talking about. If an oil company found a big fat pocket of sweet crude under any location on earth they might not tell us about it for years. They certainly wouldn't tell a competitor. If we think that gas is so finite it naturally would have a aura of being more valuable. Perception is King. Need an example. You could have just about anything on Earth for three easy payments of $29.95. A $259 value! Many people say to themselves, "Wow! that shiny bent fork is just the thing that will bring fulfillment into my life" then pull out their, already over extended, credit card and pick up the phone. We live in fear and are guided by it. Have you seen the news lately, or at least the commercials for the news. "How you can avoid being eaten by two-headed cannibals, tonight at 10". Do you realize how many things are lurking around the corner waiting to kill or maim me because I didn't tune in? Scare tactics work on people who lack critical thinking skills. It is basic human psychology. If gas is worth about $1.65 right now and we have enough to go around wouldn't it be smart to keep it under wraps for when gas hits $4, $5, maybe $9 dollars per gallon? Isn't it that kind of thinking that ran it up over $4/gallon in the first place? If you can control the supply you can control the price. That is the point of OPEC. There is an entire sector of our economy that is based upon supplying the "Green" needs of our population. If somebody announced tomorrow that we had enough gas to last forever it would be met with disbelief. Their career would certainly get burned at the stake. I haven't bought into the philosophy of what I have been told for years. I have come to my own conclusions about oil politics, natural resources, and environmental concerns. I don't believe that oil is finite. I also don't believe that what comes out of my tailpipe has done anything to make the sky any less blue. I told you all in the beginning of this topic that my personal philosophy is not that green. Having said that I do conserve. I probably have a higher percentage of CF light bulbs in my house than 95% of America. I even have a few LEDs that use almost no energy at all. I turn the water off while I brush my teeth. I use slightly less detergent than the box says and many other things that I won't go into detail listing. To me if is about conserving money. Everything comes down to money. Believe what you want. Question everything. Challenge convention. Don't be lead. Think for yourself. Now you know why I don't get overly concerned when I occasionally bury my foot on the farthest right pedal and lower my overall mpg average. I have assigned no morality to it either way. To me it is purely finances vs. emotion. - And I like going fast.