Discussion in 'Honda Hybrids' started by xcel, Oct 15, 2008.
Mike, he can't speak to specifics until the 11th of January.
We're not asking him to speak to specifics, only to CleanMPG members
...oh that was bad, sorry
*Notes January 11th on the calendar...*
Can't wait to hear the full story on it.
Wayne is bound by a written agreement with American Honda.
IT WILL BE WORTH THE WAIT!!!
Wayne's perspective will be with the view of someone with the same interest as most members here at CleanMPG. He is guaranteed to be filled with the various nuances that the new Insight II is bound to contain.
I'm sure that anyone visiting CleanMPG on January 11 -January 13, 2009 will get several detailed perspectives of 1st hand reports of several new models released in Detroit on those days.
Interesting, but I still haven't read anything about Honda passing emissions certification either. I would bet that Honda has one system that's cheap enough to sell and a different system that's clean enough to pass the tests. There are other manufacturers in that particular boat. Still, it's encouraging that they're still working on it.
Since Wayne appears able to comment on the interior space, is he able to report on whether the I-II has the same Magic Seats in back as the Fit? Can he comment on the amount of cargo space?
He is bound by a "gag"order on any information.
Knowing Honda, I'm sure the Insight II will be innovative.
Yeah, unfortunately anything with actual numbers or hard details can't be shared. The interior thing was a subjective feel when behind the wheel and that's as specific as he's allowed to get until the 11th.
Sorry!!! If it helps any, Wayne is just as anxious to share as you are to find out.
ILAveo, according to Wayne the diesel engine tech has in fact passed emissions testing. The key components that are so expensive are the very ones that are not on that iCDTi Wayne has driven a number of times -- which is not clean enough and therefore only in the country on a Manufacturer special permit.
At least the wait gives Wayne time to do a full write up. Although I guess he can't put it in the "draft" section you mods have access to.
Japanese Best Car magazine has published the rear view of the new Insight. It may not be a genuine photo, but having in mind the official photo of the production car released by Honda, it should be pretty close to the reality.
A member from Vtec.net came across with a YouTube posting, which containts a few JDM brochure pics. There is also one of the Modulo version!!!
"Following the post "Honda Insight 2009: The key facts", which contains info that CAR magazine obtained, and the JDM brochure photos that were posted yesterday (part 1 + part 2), a Japanese magazine revealed information that came from a product preview meeting for Honda dealers in Japan."
___I can only say that some of the specs, a pic and trim levels are "off" from what we will receive here in the US.
A member from Vtec.net came across with PDF document from Honda Belgium that gives technical details, fuel consumption figures (for Europe),and equipment grades (for local market).
OK, so that data converts to 51mpg urban/56mpg extra-urban on the European test cycle.
The HCH-II, according to the figures on that site, amount to 45mpg urban/54mpg extra-urban, while 2008 EPA for the HCH-II are 40 city/45 highway.
So would it be a safe guess to figure around 45C/47H for the Insight-II? I guess that's about what we've been hearing. That'll put it in Prius territory for the combined cycle.
___Somewhat optimisitc at last report...
From this document:
the ICE stops when you relax the accelerator and push the brakes.
the ICE starts again when you push the accelerator.
No other interesting information.
Only a few days to go...I'm most curious about pricing.
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