Beating the EPA - The Why’s and How to Hypermile

Discussion in 'Articles' started by xcel, Jul 24, 2006.

  1. KV55

    KV55 Member

    Hypermiling got a two page spread in the UK Today Tomorrow Autumn 2009 magazine which is produced by Toyota for Club Toyota members. This edition features the 2010 Prius.
    They have a section on extreme hypermiling under the sub heading don't try this. It covers drafting, ridge riding, DWB, forced stop and rabbit timing. Familiar words to us all.
     
  2. Right Lane Cruiser

    Right Lane Cruiser Penguin of Notagascar

    There is nothing "extreme" about hypermiling and drafting is not a valid technique. It pains me to see those two words used in conjunction with our pursuits. :(
     
  3. JusBringIt

    JusBringIt Be Inspired

    Sean is correct. You are either hypermiling or not. Safely beating the epa numbers using simple fuel saving techniques is hypermiling.
     
  4. johnwolak

    johnwolak hyperdude

    Re: Beating the EPA - The Why’s and How to Hypermile

    :flag:I've put 40lbs of air in the tires, turn off the car at red light (except at night), step on the gas pedal softly, and keep my speed down to or below the speed limit and still only am getting 38.5 mph. What am I doing wrong? I only drive about 12 miles a day.
     
  5. Chuck

    Chuck just the messenger

    John,

    It takes around 5 miles for your car to warm up, so meeting the EPA on trips that short is actually good! With ScanGage or the instant FE gage on the dash, I note lower FE until normal operating temperature is reached.
     
  6. fanamingo

    fanamingo Well-Known Member

    Re: Beating the EPA - The Why’s and How to Hypermile

    Could a mod shorten these section dividers in the main article, please? They're significantly wider than my screen (1024x768) and cause a scroll bar to appear. A similar effect could be generated by making the existing dividers shorter and centering them.

    I hadn't read the article in a while and thought I'd go through it again as a refresher. I got too frustrated scrolling left and right for every line of text that I soon gave up. This also may act as a deterrent for non-members reading it for the first time.
     
  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Fanamingo:

    ___I believe its the first EPA characteristics table that is causing the width issue for you at 1024x768 and it would be hard for me to break that one up?

    ___Let me know?

    ___Good Luck

    ___Wayne
     
  8. fanamingo

    fanamingo Well-Known Member

    Wayne,

    I checked; it's not the table. I saved the page to my computer and modified the html. I shortened the ------- and +++++++ lines. The table then automatically shrank to the width of my screen (the lines of text wrapped within the table cells).

    Sorry to be a nuisance. I just figured if I was having a problem, others might as well. I'm afraid I'm stuck with this resolution until my monitor dies.

    Edit: Another idea is to insert a space in the middle of each of the ---- and ++++ lines. This would keep the display virtually the same for those with higher resolution. For lower resolution monitors, the browser would see each line as two words and wrap the second word onto a new line.
     
  9. msirach

    msirach Well-Known Member

    Re: Beating the EPA - The Why’s and How to Hypermile

    I just looked at it on my netbook with an 8" lcd. I scrolled to the right and it just made the column on the left disappear and I could read the article fine. The resolution on this midget is 1024x600.
     
  10. fanamingo

    fanamingo Well-Known Member

    That wasn't the case for me, so it got me thinking. Our browsers must be treating the fonts sizes differently. A simple "Ctrl" + "mouse scroll wheel" shrank the font and everything fit on my screen. It's now easily readable. Thanks!
     
  11. Chuck

    Chuck just the messenger

    This is what web developers deal with - lurkers with varying resolutions, different browsers, and OSes.
     
  12. LinuxGold

    LinuxGold Hypermile to the finest

    Would be nice to have this downloadable by PDF, is there such a pdf?
     
  13. grampated

    grampated New Member

    Re: Beating the EPA - The Why’s and How to Hypermile

    Hi, Group, I am glad to join y'all. I am an oldster, coming from the era of flat head fords, from the dainty 60 to the brute 85. Did Iskenderian cams,"iskies". McCulloch blowers. eidlebrock intake manifolds, and long, lanky Carter Carbs, sequenced two and four. Enough, I guess I sound like I'm bragging, don't mean to. my apologies. I hope to learn from this forum, so I'm done talking, and am now reading. Grampa
     
  14. msirach

    msirach Well-Known Member

    Re: Beating the EPA - The Why’s and How to Hypermile

    Welcome to CleanMPG grampated!
    I know all the names you were talking about. I built a doublehump head 327 with 2 Carters and a slip n slide powerglide and put in a 63 Ford pick up Rat Rod when I was in high school.

    I like the cars and driving style MUCH better now! The link in my sig will point you to a lot of great info here.


    What do you drive now?
     
  15. Muhammad

    Muhammad Member

    Wow.. Awesome! I think I am a long way behind still.. :)
     
  16. deleond2

    deleond2 Well-Known Member

    Re: Beating the EPA - The Why’s and How to Hypermile

    I joined a couple of months ago but I have kept my posts to a minimum. I drive 2006 Chevrolet Silverado 4x2, it has the 5.3L v8, 3.23 gears, 4spd auto, 265/70/10s (which alters the rear gears). I have a Cold Air intake, cat back exhaust system, Superchips set to economy mode and a tonneau cover. The above 4 products claim to improve gas mileage (I purchased all of them for other reasons), but the only one that seems to work is the tonneau cover (about an extra 1mpg on the hwy). With the help of the tonneau cover and some discipline (the discipline needed to drive the speed limit, coast, etc...) I have raised my combined MPG to 21-22. I expect to see a bit more improvement since I continue to perfect my driving techniques. I currently have a set of All terrians on my truck, they are great tires and It looks like I will get my 50,000 miles out of them, but I see an increase of my fuel mileage in my future when I switch to an All Season tire. Consumer Reports have reviewed some light-truck tires and had a chance to test for fuel eff. Chances are my next vehicle will be a truck, I enjoy the room up front for me, the room in the back for my daughter (come oct I will be adding another car seat), and the room in the truck bed (twin mattresses anyone??). I'm very excited about what is currenty available in light trucks and what I see myself driving in the future. GM has the hybrid, AFM, vvT, 6 spd auto, and maybe even electric power steering. Ford's new engine line-up is looking awesome. The 3.7v6 with a 6 spd auto what be a great combo!! The 3.5v6 ecoboost is also exciting (oh the hypermiling possibilities).

    Now if one of the big 3 would offer a 1/2 diesel, with kind off things cleanmpg has done with the 2011 6.7L, the sky would be the limit with a 1/2 ton diesel.
     
  17. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Delond2:

    I hope you are using the truck for work but if you are looking, there is not much more fuel efficient than the 2011 Ford SuperDuty w/ the 6.7L PowerStroke ;)

    [fimg=left]http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/4_969_gas_prices.jpg[/fimg]Two summers ago almost to the day…

    One thing I hope you ask yourself before your next purchase is "What If". We have seen gas lines in the 70's when we were only 30% dependant on others for the liquid gold. Today we are over 60% dependant on those same sources. When Katrina hit the Gulf Coast, many in the South and South East were paying over $6.00 per and in some cases could not purchase at all. When Rita caused the evacuation of Houston, hundreds of thousands of residents were caught on the exit routes empty without a prayer while fuel prices skyrocketed. During the summer of 2008, gas prices averaged $4.11 per gallon across the nation with many paying over $5.00 in their respective locales.

    We have had three warnings of much higher prices in the last few years leading to much higher prices in the future. Please before your next purchases ask yourself if gasoline were $6.00 per gallon, would you want to drive a new 20 mpg truck? Or a new 20 mpg anything for that matter? That is equivalent to throwing over $0.30 out the window for each and every mile driven not including the cost of the truck... I have to believe that $0.30 per mile would eventually add up to real money no matter how wealthy one were?

    Regarding reasons to consider something far more fuel efficient, there are quite literally hundreds far more encompassing than price but price is certinaly the motivating factor.

    Good Luck

    Wayne
     
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2010
  18. deleond2

    deleond2 Well-Known Member

    I was talking about this with a friend on face book, I feel the response I used in facebook would fit well in this thread.....

    "All teasing aside, I bought my truck 4 yrs ago. My outlook has changed since then and I put fuel efficiency higher up on the list of priorities. When the time comes in about 1-2 yrs to purchase a new vehicle, I will be thinking more with the top brain on which new vehicle I chose. Re-arranging your priorities to better serve the family (aka save money) is part of the growing up process, Right?"
     
  19. deleond2

    deleond2 Well-Known Member

    Re: Beating the EPA - The Why’s and How to Hypermile

    That being said I do not see a smaller vehicle like the prius in my future, I will need a decent amount of room for the kids (my wife and I are planning for a total of 3). I will still need decent amount of room in the back for the amount of gear I do usually have to carry around.
     
  20. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Delond2:

    A very appropriate and measured response.

    Good Luck

    Wayne
     

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