Riding my bicycle with Jerks on the road

Discussion in 'Hero and Jerk of the Day' started by kelly.cardona, Jul 10, 2008.

  1. sailordave

    sailordave Well-Known Member

    Take a trip to your nearest DMV to pick up your state's driving manual. These usually have a section devoted to bicycles. Study and memorize that section and keep it near you at the ready. Check with your city or town police for local laws and regulations regarding bicycle riding in the city/town limits. Some go the extreme of even requiring you register your bicycle with them since it will be a road going vehicle. Plus it will make it easier for them to recover your bicycle if it's stolen. When I come up on a bicycle I usually tap my horn twice to let him/her know I'm there before going to pass. If it's at night I'll flash my brights. I use to ride in the city and know that I can't hear a car behind me because of the wind in my ears. Most people can usually tell by the honk of the horn what message they're trying to send. A light tap or double tap is to say "hey, I'm behind you so be careful." If they're practically screaming with their horn then they need to change their bloodpressure medicine. Bicycle riding isn't safe on the road I live on. You know the white line on the outside of the lane? Some parts of the road, that white line has fallen into the ditch. Miss living in my hometown. Most in town roads' speed limit was between 25 and 35 and it was strictly enforced. I use to ride to the store, visit neighbors and family, or even just to get a bite to eat at the drive-in burger joint. That was back when you could park your bike without locking it up and you knew it would still be there when you were done.
  2. WildWisc

    WildWisc Member

    Bikes have just as much right to be on the road as cars. If a car comes up behind a bike and can't safely pass, the driver has to go the same speed as the bike until they can pass. I'd start taking down plate numbers and reporting them.
  3. kelly.cardona

    kelly.cardona Well-Known Member

    I will most certainly let you know when I do decide on buying a taillight. Did you also say you had a helmet mounted review mirror?

    Like Shiba3420 said it depends on state/city law, in Ohio it's legal to ride on the sidewalk this is the article number 4511.711 Driving On a Sidewalk - Bicycles are the only vehicles allowed on sidewalks: local authorities may prohibit but not require bicycle riding on sidewalks. (See also 4511.07 and 4511.431.)

    I wish I had that short distance, unfortunately for me its 21 miles one way, I tried doing it this past Sunday but after 3 years of not going a long ride my legs were starting to cramp up making turn around about 2 miles away from my target location. I think that with a little more conditioning I can get back into shape and do it with no problem. I got the inspiration from a guy that bikes about the same 22 miles from his home to work, and of course the price of gas and to save the environment.

    Thanks a lot for the weblink, I am reading the Ohio booklet with laws and how to be a smarter rider, a lot of them I knew but it's always a good thing to brush up and learn new tips and tricks.

    Let me know if you ever make one of these, that sounds like a really good idea.

    I wish all states were these bike friendly, they need to start going that way with the price of fuel and the amount of CO2 going into the atmosphere cities should start planning this out better. We don't have the luxury of $.99 gas anymore.

    I totally agree with you 100% We need more education in terms of learning how to share the road. Drivers need to quite being so greedy on the road. The sad thing is that we won't see any dramatic change unless gas prices go up to $8 bucks a gallon.
  4. ikea4532

    ikea4532 ikea4532

    Originally Posted by mgoeringer
    I am a very avid cyclist and try to commute at least 3 days a week (12.5 m only round-trip).

    wow i wouuld love this, no driving for me at all. i've been trying to get my GF into the fact that i can safely go down the road at 25 mph on my bike and letting me pedal to work. 40 mile commute, so even if i average 20 i'll still make it in 2 hours, i would not try to do this everyday, as then i think my food bill would go up drastically. but maybe once or twice a week.
  5. BailOut

    BailOut My favorite holiday is Earth Day!

    I know we're getting a bit off-topic with this, but I encourage you to follow your instinct and just stick with it.

    When I started mountain biking a few weeks ago I stunk. It hurt just to go around my flat neighborhood but after a few runs it was cake. Then I moved onto the proper trails and on our (my riding/carpooling buddy and I) first ride up Thomas Creek I made it exactly 3/4 of a mile before I had to turn back.

    In the weeks since that time, and despite the smoke from the California wildfires putting a huge damper on things, I have made the crest of a merging trail and can now make it past the half way point up the Thomas Creek trail, about 3 3/4 miles and over a 1,000ft. elevation gain on fairly gnarly terrain, without stopping.

    Our goals before the end of the season are to complete the Thomas Creek trail and to make a Flume Trail run (part of the Tahoe Rim Trail, 26.5 miles from Mount Rose Meadows south past Marlette Lake to Spooner Summit, with several elevation changes in a 2,000ft. range).

    If I can do this stuff I know you can, too. :)
  6. laurieaw

    laurieaw Sorceress of the North

  7. Nanci

    Nanci Well-Known Member

    You might need to think about supplemental sodium, especially on your ride home if it is hot. Insufficient sodium will definately cause cramps. I like a product called S-caps, which I take at a rate of 1 per hour for normal riding and 1 per 30 minutes for very hot/heavy sweating. Maybe even Endurance Gatorade might be enough. Even on "just" a 21 mile commute you will still have a more enjoyable ride if you have adequate nutrition, hydration and sufficient electrolytes. Don't worry- your fitness will come back very quickly!

    My longest ride was 375 miles in 38 hours, counting some sleep and of course rest stops. I went from zero road riding the previous July to that ride the first week of April, and I was 48 and NOT an athlete by any means.

    I'm considering biking to work, but I have 18 miles to go, which in itself isn't bad, but I would have to leave at 5:30 AM so a lot of the ride would be in the dark. Still- I'd love to be able to bike to work when I wanted to.

  8. rdprice64

    rdprice64 Still Learning

    Kelly, I do not have a mirror, I think that was Nanci.

    Nanci, As long as you have the right lights on your bike (see the links below), I think that 5:30am is a great time to go. I leave my house at 4:50am, bike to the gym, and then catch the bus from the gym to work. Then reverse the trip after work. I also have a co-worker who leaves his house around 5am and bikes straight to work (12.3 miles). That way he can leave around 3pm when traffic isn't as bad for the ride home. Luckily, we have showers near the work site and flexible work schedules.

    My current and future lights are:
    Current: http://www.amazon.com/Bell-Night-Trail-Bicycle-Light/dp/B00005BXUU/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_3
    Future: http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Bike-Blinky-eXtreme-Bicycle/dp/B000KBEH1W/ref=tag_dpp_lp_edpp_ttl_in
  9. kelly.cardona

    kelly.cardona Well-Known Member

    Maybe one thing you can do is have your GF follow you in her car or yours throughout the ride so you can show her that it is doable and making her feel a little better about your commute. I still encourage you to try it out.

    Thanks for the encouragement, I know I can do it, it will take another ride or so before I can master it. That is very cool what you have accomplished, I bet those trails are beautiful too. Keep up the good work!

    Thanks for the link, I might buy it and have it sticking out so drivers have to go around me leaving at least a little more space at least a foot or so.

    Thanks for the tip on supplemental sodium, I me sweating so much caused my cramping good to know about the sodium part.

    Wow, that is a long ride, I bet it was a fun one too. Was it any special ride or just you going out and doing 375 miles?

    Yeah I am looking at the same time if I were to bike to work, but once you get used to it becomes easy.

    So what do you think of your helmet mounter rear view mirror? Does it work, do yo like it?

    I think you are right, I'll ask her. Thanks
  10. hobbit

    hobbit He who posts articles

    When I'm actually going somewhere on a bike, I ride in the road
    and "take the lane" when appropriate for maneuvers like any other
    vehicle, per the "effective cycling" guidelines. But I also
    tool along sidewalks on occasion -- AT A WALKING PACE. That
    is a perfectly safe thing to do with regard to pedestrians,
    especially if you've done a little slow-riding practice. I can't
    quite do trackstands but I *can* ride slower than most people
    walk when needed, and this is useful for filtering out of, say,
    somewhere that was just packed with people watching fireworks
    and now the crowds are walking back out. My bike ain't nothin'
    compared to the hazard from the people bumbling along carrying
    armloads of beach chairs.
  11. Nanci

    Nanci Well-Known Member

    There's this very addicting cycling sport called randoneuring http://rusa.org/ . They start you out doing a simple 100k ride, and pretty soon you're going 600k, or even 1200k! So that was my 600k ride, finishing my Super Randoneur award. I went on to complete the R12, the 53rd person in the US to do so, and the first (and only so far) female in Florida. It took persistance!

    I LOVE my helmet mounted mirror. I don't know how I ever rode without one- I'd feel blind now. I just like to know what's going on back there.

    Here's the url for S-Caps. http://www.succeedscaps.com/main_scaps.html Electrolytes may not seem so important, but they make a HUGE difference in how you feel, riding when it's really hot. If your stomach feels icky, it's usually because you need more sodium.

  12. SuPaFRo

    SuPaFRo Member

    Whenever I can, I try to ride my bike to short destinations...especially in the evening after a calf exhausting stop and go drive home from work (I drive a stick). I bike on the road when it isn't a major super busy street. Furthermore I like biking on roads that have paved shoulders (or any shoulders at all!).

    But when I get to a very busy high speed non shoulder road, I just don't feel safe biking on it. Especially since more often that not these streets are major bus routes. Granted the bus drivers in Winnipeg are pretty good and give you the whole lane when they pass you. Unfortunately most large pickups and other vehicles do not, and can breeze by you at a good clip while well within your lane. Some don't even move over at all and pass you as if you weren't even there! :eek:

    In those situations I'm sorry to say I bike on the sidewalk. I'd rather pay a fine than have someone pay for my funeral. BUT I ALWAYS give pedestrians the right of way when on the sidewalk. So I'll bike in the grass or anywhere else off the paved walkway so that the walkers have all the room they need. :)

    First things first, you gotta wear a helmet. I can't believe it when I see some people biking on very busy high speed roads without a helmet. Personally, I wear mine even when I'm going down the street to the store or the gym. I do however need to look at acquiring a "rearview" mirror for my helmet. It would make me feel safer while biking without having to always look behind me. I also need to look at getting some flashing lights (front and back). I have all the required reflectors, but like mentioned above, they don't always suffice.

    All in all, I would like to see my city create the infrastructure to support cyclists. There just aren't enough bike lanes out there. And those peddlers that run lights, stop signs, and don't follow the traffic rules are ruining the bicycling image for the rest of us. It also doesn't help me convince a gas guzzler to try biking somewhere. They always end up referring to the negative things that those bikers do.
  13. BailOut

    BailOut My favorite holiday is Earth Day!

    Congratulations, Nanci! :woot: That's a heck of an accomplishment and I know you worked your butt off to achieve it.

    I'd never heard of that sport until you mentioned it but I can see how it would be addictive.
  14. Shrek

    Shrek Kaizen Driver

    Exactly, and my idea is for a car-training equivalent - that will teach cars to keep an appropriate distance while passing. Just as a shocking collar used for sheep-training, this one would punish by making painful needle-scratches along the side of the car :D
  15. Bike123

    Bike123 Well-Known Member

    Congratulations, Nanci. I've read some accounts of doing brevets on Tandem@Hobbes. I'm sure you have done those some of those epic rides in "less than ideal" weather, too.

    In the Canadian Rockies, I saw a bike tourist with a flag mounted horizontally to the left. A co-worker from the Netherlands says the horizontal flag is pretty common there.
  16. Jimmy

    Jimmy Well-Known Member

    I have riiden a bicycle for decades, and really enjoy it - especially when I am on the "rail trails". However, even though it is legal and bikers have every right to be there, I try as much as possible to stay completely off of roads and highways that carry motor vehicle traffic. I am too afraid to do otherwise.

    When I must travel along a road I will always use the sidewalk if one is available. Adult bicycle traffic on sidewalks is illegal in some parts of my area. Nevertheless I will take a chance on getting a ticket or getting an injury while on the sidewalk. Running into a pedestrian or another sidewalk-riding bicyclist will almost always result in injuries far less extensive than bodily harm resulting from a collision with an automobile or a 6 ton truck.

    So, for me, mixing bicycles with motor vehicles is too dangerous. Insisting on my right to be on the road is just not worth the risk.
  17. kelly.cardona

    kelly.cardona Well-Known Member

    Congrats Nanci!! That is a heck of an accomplishment. Another problem I face is that I have a mountain bike and even though I have replaced the tires with thinner ones I still work almost double then if I had a road bike, so that is another challenge I have. It does however condition me a little better for when I do get my road bike.

    Thanks for the links, I am definitely interested in the randoneuring seems like a lot of fun and pushes you to the limit.

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