Everybody’s Business

Discussion in 'In the News' started by swoon, May 25, 2008.

  1. lamebums

    lamebums Member

  2. warthog1984

    warthog1984 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, GM's overseas division makes some great vehicles don't they?


    for the sake of my blood pressure, please never diss an American company while praising the pirated Chinese copy of its products.

    2005 out of 2008 components on the QQ are interchangeable between the QQ and the Chevy Spark/DaeWoo Maitz and the Chinese have the nerve to claim its not pirated.:mad:

    I don't like the Big 3 but I hate the blatant theft of many Chinese companies more.
  3. lamebums

    lamebums Member

    Well, I don't have much choice but to pile it on when the Big 3 don't even offer us a decent alternative for gas mileage. Chevy is pimping out their cars and saying they're champions of mileage when the four-cylinder Malibu gets 30 MPG highway.

    Tahoe Hybrid? :angry:

    I almost want Chery to be able to import those cars and steal it right from under GM's nose since they've proven they don't even want to sell a fuel-efficient model here. Maybe then the Big 3 will finally sell a non-FSP in the States when the realize their loss :eek:
  4. pdk

    pdk Beacon of Sanity

    The biggest question, I believe, with regards to any specific alternative fuel development is, "Will the cure be worse than the disease?"

    Most of the things I've read about liquid coal suggest that, at best, GHG and smog emissions are on par with gasoline, and at worst, far worse than gas. The same seems to hold with biofuels (at least in their current forms) and hydrogen (current well-to-station emissions at least).

    With oil shale and deep well drilling, it is a non-trivial possibility that contamination would occur (much like the gulf coast dead zone from fertilizer runoff). That would affect fishing very directly and probably a few other industries (basically anything that depends on large amounts of water...paper, possibly farming if that water makes its way to irrigation systems).

    Humanity and the landscape are intertwined, to be sure, and a lot of our livelihood depends on a healthy landscape. You can't separate the two, and the future is not going to be a simple choice of either the economy or the environment. Framing the debate in those terms does no justice to the serious issues at hand. The most important thing during upcoming alternative fuel development is to make sure that we don't have tunnel vision. In order to be truly effective, whatever energy policy and fuel(s) we come up with will need to be both economically and environmentally sustainable. We're a creative people, I'm sure we can have our cake and eat it too.
  5. pumaman

    pumaman Well-Known Member

    No need to look all the way to the East Coast Dondee, just across the River to Missouri where we also have personnal property tax on our cars. I've lived here over 20 years, and although people bitch about it, I've never heard anyone say they've bought a less expensive car because of it.

    Ah, so when someone calls me an Ugly American, they're complimenting me. Gotcha.
  6. Xringer

    Xringer Older Member

    Not a cure. Anyone that looks at our problems and thinks about them for a while will end up thinking
    of alternate sources of oil or oil from coal etc is only a band-aid to get us over this rough spot.
    Looking back at what we have already accomplished environmentally since the 1950s,
    everyone has to know that we can't go back to the good old days for very long
    and not suffer major repercussions.

    Around the NE, cars rust away pretty fast. It's hard to find cars on the road from the 1980s. With gas prices shooting up, my guess is, we will have about 50% less gas hogs on the road within 3 to 5 years.

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